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Message-ID: <2025091220-private-verse-d979@gregkh>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 16:19:53 +0200
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>
Cc: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@...ev.pl>, Tzung-Bi Shih <tzungbi@...nel.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@...aro.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@...nel.org>,
	Benson Leung <bleung@...omium.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@...nel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@...nel.org>,
	Dawid Niedzwiecki <dawidn@...gle.com>, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, chrome-platform@...ts.linux.dev,
	linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@...g-engineering.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] platform/chrome: Fix a possible UAF via revocable

On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 04:59:16PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 03:46:27PM +0200, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 3:39 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > >
> > > I have no objection moving this to the cdev api, BUT given that 'struct
> > > cdev' is embedded everywhere, I don't think it's going to be a simple
> > > task, but rather have to be done one-driver-at-a-time like the patch in
> > > this series does it.
> > 
> > I don't think cdev is the right place for this as user-space keeping a
> > reference to a file-descriptor whose "backend" disappeared is not the
> > only possible problem. We can easily create a use-case of a USB I2C
> > expander being used by some in-kernel consumer and then unplugged.
> > This has nothing to do with the character device. I believe the
> > sub-system level is the right place for this and every driver
> > subsystem would have to integrate it separately, taking its various
> > quirks into account.
> 
> That's why I mentioned in-kernel users previously. Drivers routinely
> acquire resources provided by other drivers, and having a way to revoke
> those is needed.
> 
> It is a different but related problem compared to userspace racing with
> .remove(). Could we solve both using the same backend concepts ?
> Perhaps, time will tell, and if that works nicely, great. But we still
> have lots of drivers exposing character devices to userspace (usually
> through a subsystem-specific API, drivers that create a cdev manually
> are the minority). That problem is in my opinion more urgent than
> handling the removal of in-kernel resources, because it's more common,
> and is easily triggerable by userspace. The good news is that it should
> also be simpler to solve, we should be able to address the enter/exit
> part entirely in cdev, and limit the changes to drivers in .remove() to
> the strict minimum.
> 
> What I'd like to see is if the proposed implementation of revocable
> resources can be used as a building block to fix the cdev issue. If it
> ca, great, let's solve it then. If it can't, that's still fine, it will
> still be useful for in-kernel resources, even if we need a different
> implementation for cdev.

Patch 5/5 in this series does just this for a specific use of a cdev in
the driver.  Is that what you are looking for?

thanks,

greg k-h

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