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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 18:43:51 -0400
From: Lyude Paul <lyude@...hat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] rust: Add dma_buf stub bindings

Agh! Sorry for the spam, I should have double checked the code before writing
this as I realized the reason I didn't implement this. Correct me if I'm wrong
here since it's the first time I've interacted very much with this API in the
kernel but: it seems like the reference counting for dma_buf objects is
intended to be used for keeping a dma_buf's fd around while userspace is still
accessing it and not for use internally by drivers themselves, correct?

On Fri, 2025-09-12 at 18:32 -0400, Lyude Paul wrote:
> …though, I just realized immediately after sending that response to you that I
> mentioned that this type is reference counted in the commit message - but I
> never actually added an implementation for AlwaysRefCounted. So, that's at
> least one additional thing I will make sure to add. Similarly though, I don't
> think doing that would require us to interact with any locking or sg_tables
> since we're not yet exposing any actual operations on DmaBuf.
> 
> On Fri, 2025-09-12 at 18:29 -0400, Lyude Paul wrote:
> > On Fri, 2025-09-12 at 10:25 +0200, Christian König wrote:
> > > On 12.09.25 00:57, Lyude Paul wrote:
> > > > In order to implement the gem export callback, we need a type to represent
> > > > struct dma_buf. So - this commit introduces a set of stub bindings for
> > > > dma_buf. These bindings provide a ref-counted DmaBuf object, but don't
> > > > currently implement any functionality for using the DmaBuf.
> > > 
> > > Especially the last sentence is a bit problematic.
> > > 
> > > Wrapping a DMA-buf object should be pretty easy, the hard part is the operations on the DMA-buf object.
> > > 
> > > E.g. how are locking and sg_table creation handled?
> > 
> > Mind clarifying a bit what you're talking about here?
> > 
> > FWIW: regarding sg_table creation, we currently have two ways of doing this in
> > rust:
> > 
> >  * Manually, using the scatterlist rust bindings that were recently merged
> >    into drm-rust-next
> >  * Through a DRM helper provided by gem shmem, ATM this would be either
> >     - `gem::shmem::BaseObject::<T: DriverObject>::sg_table()`
> >     - `gem::shmem::BaseObject::<T: DriverObject>::owned_sg_table()`
> >       (both of these just use drm_gem_shmem_get_pages_sgt())
> > 
> > However, I don't think we currently have any interactions in the bindings
> > we've written so far between SGTable and DmaBuf and I don't currently have any
> > plans for this on my roadmap.
> > 
> > Regarding locking: I'm not totally sure what locking you're referring to here?
> > To be clear - I'm explicitly /not/ trying to deal with the issue of solving
> > how operations on the DmaBuf object work in rust, and instead simply come up
> > with the bare minimum interface needed so that we can return a DmaBuf created
> > from the drm_gem_prime_export() helper (e.g. gem::BaseObject::prime_export())
> > from a driver's gem::DriverObject::export() callback. Or alternatively,
> > destroy it in the event that said callback fails.
> > 
> > Unless there's some locking interaction I missed that we need to solve to
> > fulfill those two goals, I'm not aware of any rust driver that needs anything
> > beyond that just yet. As such, I assumed this interface would touch a small
> > enough surface of the dma-buf API that it shouldn't set any concrete
> > requirements on how a fully-fledged dma-buf api in rust would work in the
> > future. And at the same time, still allow us to move forward with the shmem
> > bindings, and make sure that the surface area of the stub API is small enough
> > that adding the rest of the functionality to it later doesn't require any non-
> > trivial changes to current users.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Christian.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Lyude Paul <lyude@...hat.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@...labora.com>
> > > > 
> > > > ---
> > > > V3:
> > > > * Rename as_ref() to from_raw()
> > > > V4:
> > > > * Add missing period to rustdoc at top of file
> > > > 
> > > >  rust/kernel/dma_buf.rs | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  rust/kernel/lib.rs     |  1 +
> > > >  2 files changed, 41 insertions(+)
> > > >  create mode 100644 rust/kernel/dma_buf.rs
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/rust/kernel/dma_buf.rs b/rust/kernel/dma_buf.rs
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 0000000000000..50be3e4dd4098
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/rust/kernel/dma_buf.rs
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@
> > > > +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > > > +
> > > > +//! DMA buffer API.
> > > > +//!
> > > > +//! C header: [`include/linux/dma-buf.h`](srctree/include/linux/dma-buf.h)
> > > > +
> > > > +use bindings;
> > > > +use kernel::types::*;
> > > > +
> > > > +/// A DMA buffer object.
> > > > +///
> > > > +/// # Invariants
> > > > +///
> > > > +/// The data layout of this type is equivalent to that of `struct dma_buf`.
> > > > +#[repr(transparent)]
> > > > +pub struct DmaBuf(Opaque<bindings::dma_buf>);
> > > > +
> > > > +// SAFETY: `struct dma_buf` is thread-safe
> > > > +unsafe impl Send for DmaBuf {}
> > > > +// SAFETY: `struct dma_buf` is thread-safe
> > > > +unsafe impl Sync for DmaBuf {}
> > > > +
> > > > +#[expect(unused)]
> > > > +impl DmaBuf {
> > > > +    /// Convert from a `*mut bindings::dma_buf` to a [`DmaBuf`].
> > > > +    ///
> > > > +    /// # Safety
> > > > +    ///
> > > > +    /// The caller guarantees that `self_ptr` points to a valid initialized `struct dma_buf` for the
> > > > +    /// duration of the lifetime of `'a`, and promises to not violate rust's data aliasing rules
> > > > +    /// using the reference provided by this function.
> > > > +    pub(crate) unsafe fn from_raw<'a>(self_ptr: *mut bindings::dma_buf) -> &'a Self {
> > > > +        // SAFETY: Our data layout is equivalent to `dma_buf` .
> > > > +        unsafe { &*self_ptr.cast() }
> > > > +    }
> > > > +
> > > > +    pub(crate) fn as_raw(&self) -> *mut bindings::dma_buf {
> > > > +        self.0.get()
> > > > +    }
> > > > +}
> > > > diff --git a/rust/kernel/lib.rs b/rust/kernel/lib.rs
> > > > index fcffc3988a903..59242d83efe21 100644
> > > > --- a/rust/kernel/lib.rs
> > > > +++ b/rust/kernel/lib.rs
> > > > @@ -81,6 +81,7 @@
> > > >  pub mod device_id;
> > > >  pub mod devres;
> > > >  pub mod dma;
> > > > +pub mod dma_buf;
> > > >  pub mod driver;
> > > >  #[cfg(CONFIG_DRM = "y")]
> > > >  pub mod drm;

-- 
Cheers,
 Lyude Paul (she/her)
 Software Engineer at Red Hat

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