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Message-ID: <20250923231440.GA2088746@bhelgaas>
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 18:14:40 -0500
From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>
To: manivannan.sadhasivam@....qualcomm.com
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
	Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@...nel.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@...nel.org>,
	Krzysztof WilczyƄski <kwilczynski@...nel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>, linux-pci@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org,
	"David E. Box" <david.e.box@...ux.intel.com>,
	Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@...onical.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>,
	Chia-Lin Kao <acelan.kao@...onical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI/ASPM: Enable ASPM and Clock PM by default on
 devicetree platforms

On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 09:46:43PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This series is one of the 'let's bite the bullet' kind, where we have decided to
> enable all ASPM and Clock PM states by default on devicetree platforms [1]. The
> reason why devicetree platforms were chosen because, it will be of minimal
> impact compared to the ACPI platforms. So seemed ideal to test the waters.
> 
> Problem Statement
> =================
> 
> Historically, PCI subsystem relied on the BIOS to enable ASPM and Clock PM
> states for PCI devices before the kernel boot if the default states are
> selected using:
> 
> * Kconfig: CONFIG_PCIEASPM_DEFAULT=y, or
> * cmdline: "pcie_aspm=off", or
> * FADT: ACPI_FADT_NO_ASPM
> 
> This was done to avoid enabling ASPM for the buggy devices that are known to
> create issues with ASPM (even though they advertise the ASPM capability). But
> BIOS is not at all a thing on most of the non-x86 platforms. For instance, the
> majority of the Embedded and Compute ARM based platforms using devicetree have
> something called bootloader, which is not anyway near the standard BIOS used in
> x86 based platforms. And these bootloaders wouldn't touch PCIe at all, unless
> they boot using PCIe storage, even then there would be no guarantee that the
> ASPM states will get enabled. Another example is the Intel's VMD domain that is
> not at all configured by the BIOS. But, this series is not enabling ASPM/Clock
> PM for VMD domain. I hope it will be done similarly in the future patches.
> 
> Solution
> ========
> 
> So to avoid relying on BIOS, it was agreed [2] that the PCI subsystem has to
> enable ASPM and Clock PM states based on the device capability. If any devices
> misbehave, then they should be quirked accordingly.
> 
> First patch of this series introduces two helper functions to enable all ASPM
> and Clock PM states if of_have_populated_dt() is true. Second patch drops the
> custom ASPM enablement code from the pcie-qcom driver as it is no longer needed.
> 
> Testing
> =======
> 
> This series is tested on Lenovo Thinkpad T14s based on Snapdragon X1 SoC. All
> supported ASPM states are getting enabled for both the NVMe and WLAN devices by
> default.
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/a47sg5ahflhvzyzqnfxvpk3dw4clkhqlhznjxzwqpf4nyjx5dk@bcghz5o6zolk
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20250828204345.GA958461@bhelgaas
> 
> Changes in v2:
> 
> - Used of_have_populated_dt() instead of CONFIG_OF to identify devicetree
>   platforms
> - Renamed the override helpers and changed the override print
> - Moved setting the default state back to the original place and only kept the
>   override in helpers
> 
> Signed-off-by: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@....qualcomm.com>
> ---
> Manivannan Sadhasivam (2):
>       PCI/ASPM: Override the ASPM and Clock PM states set by BIOS for devicetree platforms
>       PCI: qcom: Remove the custom ASPM enablement code
> 
>  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-qcom.c | 32 --------------------------
>  drivers/pci/pcie/aspm.c                | 42 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>  2 files changed, 40 insertions(+), 34 deletions(-)

I tentatively put this on pci/aspm and included it in pci/next.

I think it's too late in the cycle to include this for v6.18, so I'll
probably defer it until v6.19, but maybe we can start getting a little
more testing.

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