linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] slab: Introduce kmalloc

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2025 20:18:28 +0200
From: Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
To: "Christoph Lameter (Ampere)" <cl@...two.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] slab: Introduce kmalloc_obj() and family

On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 at 19:47, Christoph Lameter (Ampere) <cl@...two.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Oct 2025, Kees Cook wrote:
>
> > But all of that is orthogonal to just _having_ the type info available.
>
> iOS did go the path of creating basically one slab cache for each
> "type" of kmalloc for security reasons.
>
> See https://security.apple.com/blog/towards-the-next-generation-of-xnu-memory-safety/

We can get something similar to that with:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250825154505.1558444-1-elver@google.com/
Pending compiler support which is going to become available in a few
months (probably).
That version used the existing RANDOM_KMALLOC_CACHES choice of 16 slab
caches, but there's no fundamental limitation to go higher.
Note, this mitigation is likely not as strong as we'd like to without
SLAB_VIRTUAL (or so I'm told): https://lwn.net/Articles/944647/