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Message-Id: <D421296D-FFF3-4998-B467-8E079AEB7499@collabora.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2025 18:41:58 -0300
From: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@...labora.com>
To: Yury Norov <yury.norov@...il.com>
Cc: Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@...dia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] Introduce bitfield and move register macro to
 rust/kernel/

Hi,

First and foremost I’d like to say sorry for not having the bandwidth to
chime in here earlier. I’ve been pretty consumed by Tyr itself lately.

> On 7 Oct 2025, at 12:41, Yury Norov <yury.norov@...il.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2025 at 07:36:21PM +0900, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> Hi Yuri,
>> 
>> On Tue Oct 7, 2025 at 7:29 AM JST, Yury Norov wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> Regardless, I don't think that this is the right path to move the
>>> bitfields into the core. The natural path for a feature that has
>>> been originally developed on driver side is to mature in there and
>>> get merged to core libraries after a while. Resctrl from Intel is one
>>> recent example.
>>> 
>>> With that said, I'm OK if you move the bitfields as a whole, like you
>>> do in v5, and I'm also OK if you split out the part essential for nova
>>> and take it into the driver. In that case the bitfields will stay in 
>>> drivers and you'll be able to focus on the features that _you_ need,
>>> not on generic considerations.
>>> 
>>> I'm not OK to move bitfields in their current (v6) incomplete form in
>>> rust/kernel. We still have no solid understanding on the API and
>>> implementation that we've been all agreed on.
>> 
>> Initially the plan was indeed to give this code some more time to mature
>> in nova-core before moving it out.
>> 
>> The reason for the early move is that we have another driver (Tyr) who
>> wants to start using the register macro. Without it, they would be left
>> with the option of either reinventing the wheel, or poking at registers
>> the old-fashioned way, which I think we can agree is not going to be any
>> safer than the current macro. :)
>> 

Tyr could use both register!() and bitfield!() today FYI. If you move it out, I can
follow with an actual patch to do so.

— Daniel

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