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Message-ID: <20251016110717.GE3289052@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 13:07:17 +0200
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To: David Kaplan <david.kaplan@....com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...nel.org>,
	Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@...ux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>, x86@...nel.org,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Alexander Graf <graf@...zon.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 31/56] x86/alternative: Prepend nops with retpolines

On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 09:34:19AM -0500, David Kaplan wrote:
> When patching retpolines, nops may be required for padding such as when
> turning a 5-byte direct call into a 2-byte indirect call.  Previously,
> these were appended at the end so the code becomes "call *reg;nop;nop;nop"
> for example.  This was fine because it's always going from a larger
> instruction to a smaller one.
> 
> But this is a problem if the sequence is transformed from a 2-byte indirect
> to the 5-byte direct call version at runtime because when the called
> function returns, it will be in the middle of the 5-byte call instruction.
> 
> To fix this, prepend the nops instead of appending them.  Consequently, the
> return site of the called function is always the same.
> 

So this results in:

NOP3; call *%r11

And you're saying a task can be on the other side of that call and then
return lines up. But what if the task is preempted right after that
NOP3?

Same for all the alternative patching; what ensures no task is currently
having a register state that is in the middle of things?

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