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Message-ID: <78424672-065c-47fc-ba76-c5a866dcdc98@redhat.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 15:34:47 +0200
From: David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@...hat.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
 linux-mm@...ck.org
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org>, Muchun Song <muchun.song@...ux.dev>,
 Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@...zon.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
 Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@...gle.com>,
 Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
 James Houghton <jthoughton@...gle.com>,
 Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>, Hugh Dickins
 <hughd@...gle.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>,
 Ujwal Kundur <ujwal.kundur@...il.com>,
 "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>,
 Oscar Salvador <osalvador@...e.de>, Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>,
 Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] mm/userfaultfd: modulize memory types

On 15.10.25 01:14, Peter Xu wrote:
> [based on latest akpm/mm-new of Oct 14th, commit 36c6c5ce1b275]
> 
> v4:
> - Some cleanups within vma_can_userfault() [David]
> - Rename uffd_get_folio() to minor_get_folio() [David]
> - Remove uffd_features in vm_uffd_ops, deduce it from supported ioctls [David]
> 
> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250620190342.1780170-1-peterx@redhat.com
> v2: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250627154655.2085903-1-peterx@redhat.com
> v3: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250926211650.525109-1-peterx@redhat.com
> 
> This series is an alternative proposal of what Nikita proposed here on the
> initial three patches:
> 
>    https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250404154352.23078-1-kalyazin@amazon.com
> 
> This is not yet relevant to any guest-memfd support, but paving way for it.
> Here, the major goal is to make kernel modules be able to opt-in with any
> form of userfaultfd supports, like guest-memfd.  This alternative option
> should hopefully be cleaner, and avoid leaking userfault details into
> vm_ops.fault().
> 
> It also means this series does not depend on anything.  It's a pure
> refactoring of userfaultfd internals to provide a generic API, so that
> other types of files, especially RAM based, can support userfaultfd without
> touching mm/ at all.
> 
> To achieve it, this series introduced a file operation called vm_uffd_ops.
> The ops needs to be provided when a file type supports any of userfaultfd.
> 
> With that, I moved both hugetlbfs and shmem over, whenever possible.  So
> far due to concerns on exposing an uffd_copy() API, the MISSING faults are
> still separately processed and can only be done within mm/.  Hugetlbfs kept
> its special paths untouched.
> 
> An example of shmem uffd_ops:
> 
> static const struct vm_uffd_ops shmem_uffd_ops = {
> 	.supported_ioctls	=	BIT(_UFFDIO_COPY) |
> 					BIT(_UFFDIO_ZEROPAGE) |
> 					BIT(_UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT) |
> 					BIT(_UFFDIO_CONTINUE) |
> 					BIT(_UFFDIO_POISON),
> 	.minor_get_folio	=	shmem_uffd_get_folio,
> };

This looks better than the previous version to me.

Long term the goal should be to move all hugetlb/shmem specific stuff 
out of mm/hugetlb.c and of course, we won't be adding any new ones to 
mm/userfaultfd.c

I agree with Liam that a better interface could be providing default 
handlers for the separate ioctls [1], but there is always the option to 
evolve this interface into something like that later.


[1] 
https://lkml.kernel.org/r/frnos5jtmlqvzpcrredcoummuzvllweku5dgp5ii5in6epwnw5@anu4dqsz6shy
-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb


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