linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: ufs: mediatek,ufs: add MT8195 compatible and update clock nodes

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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 08:13:18 +0000
From: Peter Wang (王信友) <peter.wang@...iatek.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: ufs: mediatek,ufs: add MT8195
 compatible and update clock nodes

On Sun, 2025-10-19 at 12:19 +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> 
> You did.
> 
> You wrote very clearly here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/eb47587159484abca8e6d65dddcf0844822ce99f.camel@mediatek.com/
> 
> "In addition, it will require MediaTek to put in extra
> effort to migrate the kernel. "
> 

Hi Krzysztof Kozlowski,

The main reason for my objection was also clearly stated:
"removing these DTS settings will make what was originally
a simple task more complicated."
I’m not sure if you are quoting only the "In addition"
part to take it out of context?



> 
> Also you wrote:
> "The role of MediaTek UFS maintainer is not suitable to be handed
> over
> to someone outside of MediaTek."
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/ce0f9785f8f488010cd81adbbdb5ac07742fc988.camel@mediatek.com/
> 
> Holy molly, you really wrote this!
> 

"The role of MediaTek UFS maintainer is not suitable to be handed
over to someone outside of MediaTek."
My main point is that MediaTek’s internal personnel certainly 
have a better understanding of the SoC architecture than external
parties.
Wouldn’t it be more appropriate for maintainers to be internal staff?



> That's completely unacceptable. You don't understand how upstream
> development works and you push your downstream narrative which for us
> does not matter. You also object community led efforts, because you
> apparently want to control the upstream process.
> 

I don’t see how this relates to upstream/downstream?
Aren’t you reading too much into this? My objection is purely
because I don’t want to complicate a simple matter, not 
because I object to community-led efforts.
Please don’t misunderstand my intention.



> That is red flag.
> 
> I think you should step down from maintainer position and find more
> suitable person, who is willing to work with the community, or
> rethink
> how upstream process works and understand that your downstream goals
> do
> not matter completely.
> 
> I will be watching closely this and if situation does not improve, I
> believe we should mark the driver orphaned until we find maintainer
> caring about community, not about corporate goals.
> 
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof


Mediatek will add a few more maintainers internally,

Thanks
Peter