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Message-ID: <aPYdoU-Fey8hBqJ_@google.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 11:31:45 +0000
From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@...gle.com>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@...nel.org>, Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@...el.com>, 
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@...ux.intel.com>, Maxime Ripard <mripard@...nel.org>, 
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@...e.de>, David Airlie <airlied@...il.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@...ll.ch>, 
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...labora.com>, Steven Price <steven.price@....com>, 
	Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@...labora.com>, Liviu Dudau <liviu.dudau@....com>, 
	dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	rust-for-linux@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/2] Defer vm_bo cleanup in GPUVM with DRM_GPUVM_IMMEDIATE_MODE

On Mon, Oct 06, 2025 at 12:05:54PM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> There are two main ways that GPUVM might be used:
> 
> * staged mode, where VM_BIND ioctls update the GPUVM immediately so that
>   the GPUVM reflects the state of the VM *including* staged changes that
>   are not yet applied to the GPU's virtual address space.
> * immediate mode, where the GPUVM state is updated during run_job(),
>   i.e., in the DMA fence signalling critical path, to ensure that the
>   GPUVM and the GPU's virtual address space has the same state at all
>   times.
> 
> Currently, only Panthor uses GPUVM in immediate mode, but the Rust
> drivers Tyr and Nova will also use GPUVM in immediate mode, so it is
> worth to support both staged and immediate mode well in GPUVM. To use
> immediate mode, we must manage the vm_bos and vas during the fence
> signalling critical path.
> 
> The first part of that work was the introduction of a fence signalling
> safe mutex for the GEMs GPUVA list in commit e7fa80e2932c ("drm_gem: add
> mutex to drm_gem_object.gpuva").
> 
> This is series the second part of that work: Dropping a vm_bo object in
> the fence signalling critical path is problematic for two reasons:
> 
> * When using DRM_GPUVM_RESV_PROTECTED, you cannot remove the vm_bo from
>   the extobj/evicted lists during the fence signalling path.
> * Dropping a vm_bo could lead to the GEM object getting destroyed.
>   The requirement that GEM object cleanup is fence signalling safe is
>   dubious and likely to be violated in practice.
> 
> Panthor already has its own custom implementation of postponing vm_bo
> cleanup. Take inspiration from that by moving the logic into GPUVM, and
> adjust Panthor to use the new GPUVM logic.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@...gle.com>

Pushed to drm-rust-next.

I added this to drm-rust instead of drm-misc as a prerequisite for
another patch. If merge conflicts show up, we can do a backmerge.

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