linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 00/11] ntfsplus: ntfs filesystem remake

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 10:55:15 +0900
From: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@...nel.org>
To: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@...il.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] ntfsplus: ntfs filesystem remake

On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 9:17 AM Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@...il.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 11:07:38AM +0900, Namjae Jeon wrote:
> > Introduction
> > ============
>
> Can you write the documentation at least in
> Documentation/filesystems/ntfsplus.rst?
Okay, I will add it on the next version.
>
>
> > - Journaling support:
> >    ntfs3 does not provide full journaling support. It only implement journal
> >    replay[4], which in our testing did not function correctly. My next task
> >    after upstreaming will be to add full journal support to ntfsplus.
>
> What's the plan for journaling? Mirroring the Windows implementation AFAIK?
Yes. It would be best to first obtain the NTFS journal specification,
and I'll try that.
>
> For the timeline: I guess you plan to submit journaling patches right after
> ntfsplus is merged (at least applied to the filesystem tree or direct PR to
> Linus), or would it be done for the subsequent release cycle (6.n+1)?
It will probably take about a year to implement and stabilize it.

>
> Regarding stability: As it is a new filesystem, shouldn't it be marked
> experimental (and be stabilized for a few cycles) first?
I heard from Chrisitan's email that he was considering adding fs/staging trees.
In my opinion, it would be a good idea to promote ntfsplus after it's
been tested
there for a few cycles. And an experimental mark is also possible.
>
> Thanks.
Thanks!
>
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