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Message-Id: <DDNZL452A8JR.K1AA7LHZEXW8@kernel.org>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 14:08:02 +0200
From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@...nel.org>
To: "FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@...il.com>
Cc: <aliceryhl@...gle.com>, <daniel.almeida@...labora.com>,
 <a.hindborg@...nel.org>, <alex.gaynor@...il.com>, <ojeda@...nel.org>,
 <anna-maria@...utronix.de>, <bjorn3_gh@...tonmail.com>,
 <boqun.feng@...il.com>, <frederic@...nel.org>, <gary@...yguo.net>,
 <jstultz@...gle.com>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <lossin@...nel.org>,
 <lyude@...hat.com>, <rust-for-linux@...r.kernel.org>, <sboyd@...nel.org>,
 <tglx@...utronix.de>, <tmgross@...ch.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: add udelay() function

On Tue Oct 21, 2025 at 9:11 AM CEST, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> Add udelay() function, inserts a delay based on microseconds with busy
> waiting, in preparation for supporting read_poll_count_atomic().
>
> Signed-off-by: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@...il.com>
> ---
>  rust/helpers/time.c       |  5 +++++
>  rust/kernel/time/delay.rs | 37 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  2 files changed, 42 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/rust/helpers/time.c b/rust/helpers/time.c
> index a318e9fa4408..67a36ccc3ec4 100644
> --- a/rust/helpers/time.c
> +++ b/rust/helpers/time.c
> @@ -33,3 +33,8 @@ s64 rust_helper_ktime_to_ms(const ktime_t kt)
>  {
>  	return ktime_to_ms(kt);
>  }
> +
> +void rust_helper_udelay(unsigned long usec)
> +{
> +	udelay(usec);
> +}
> diff --git a/rust/kernel/time/delay.rs b/rust/kernel/time/delay.rs
> index eb8838da62bc..fb7c15dfe186 100644
> --- a/rust/kernel/time/delay.rs
> +++ b/rust/kernel/time/delay.rs
> @@ -47,3 +47,40 @@ pub fn fsleep(delta: Delta) {
>          bindings::fsleep(delta.as_micros_ceil() as c_ulong)
>      }
>  }
> +
> +/// Inserts a delay based on microseconds with busy waiting.
> +///
> +/// Equivalent to the C side [`udelay()`], which delays in microseconds.
> +///
> +/// `delta` must be within `[0, `MAX_UDELAY_MS`]` in milliseconds;
> +/// otherwise, it is erroneous behavior. That is, it is considered a bug to
> +/// call this function with an out-of-range value, in which case the function
> +/// will insert a delay for at least the maximum value in the range and
> +/// may warn in the future.

I think clamping the given value to Delta::ZERO..=MAX_UDELAY_DELTA is the
correct thing to do and it should be mentioned by the documentation of the
function (as you do already).

However, if we want to consider it an error if an out of range value is given,
we should just return a Result. (A simple out of range condition, that can be
handled by the user easily shouldn't result into a potential WARN()).

Additionally, we can also have an infallible version of udelay() that evaluates
the delta at build time.

Another alternative would be to just clamp the value and call it a day (i.e. do
not consider out of range values to be an error).

I don't mind one or the other, but I'm against adding a WARN() for something
that can be handled with a Result easily *and* is already handled gracefully.

> +///
> +/// The behavior above differs from the C side [`udelay()`] for which out-of-range
> +/// values could lead to an overflow and unexpected behavior.
> +///
> +/// [`udelay()`]: https://docs.kernel.org/timers/delay_sleep_functions.html#c.udelay
> +pub fn udelay(delta: Delta) {
> +    const MAX_UDELAY_DELTA: Delta = Delta::from_millis(bindings::MAX_UDELAY_MS as i64);
> +
> +    let delta = if (Delta::ZERO..=MAX_UDELAY_DELTA).contains(&delta) {
> +        delta
> +    } else {
> +        // TODO: Add WARN_ONCE() when it's supported.
> +        MAX_UDELAY_DELTA
> +    };
> +
> +    // SAFETY: It is always safe to call `udelay()` with any duration.
> +    // Note that the kernel is compiled with `-fno-strict-overflow`
> +    // so any out-of-range value could lead to unexpected behavior
> +    // but won't lead to undefined behavior.
> +    unsafe {
> +        // Convert the duration to microseconds and round up to preserve
> +        // the guarantee; `udelay()` inserts a delay for at least
> +        // the provided duration, but that it may delay for longer
> +        // under some circumstances.
> +        bindings::udelay(delta.as_micros_ceil() as c_ulong)
> +    }
> +}
> -- 
> 2.43.0


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