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Message-ID: <aPhbhQEWAel4aD9t@yury>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 00:20:21 -0400
From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@...il.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
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	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@...wei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep,get}()
 helpers

On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 03:00:24PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Yury,
> 
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 at 20:51, Yury Norov <yury.norov@...il.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 12:54:10PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > The existing FIELD_{GET,PREP}() macros are limited to compile-time
> > > constants.  However, it is very common to prepare or extract bitfield
> > > elements where the bitfield mask is not a compile-time constant.
> > >
> > > To avoid this limitation, the AT91 clock driver and several other
> > > drivers already have their own non-const field_{prep,get}() macros.
> > > Make them available for general use by consolidating them in
> > > <linux/bitfield.h>, and improve them slightly:
> > >   1. Avoid evaluating macro parameters more than once,
> > >   2. Replace "ffs() - 1" by "__ffs()",
> > >   3. Support 64-bit use on 32-bit architectures.
> > >
> > > This is deliberately not merged into the existing FIELD_{GET,PREP}()
> > > macros, as people expressed the desire to keep stricter variants for
> > > increased safety, or for performance critical paths.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@...der.be>
> > > Acked-by: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@...tlin.com>
> > > Acked-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@...wei.com>
> > > Acked-by: Crt Mori <cmo@...exis.com>
> > > ---
> > > v4:
> > >   - Add Acked-by,
> > >   - Rebase on top of commit 7c68005a46108ffa ("crypto: qat - relocate
> > >     power management debugfs helper APIs") in v6.17-rc1,
> > >   - Convert more recently introduced upstream copies:
> > >       - drivers/edac/ie31200_edac.c
> > >       - drivers/iio/dac/ad3530r.c
> >
> > Can you split out the part that actually introduces the new API?
> 
> Unfortunately not, as that would cause build warnings/failures due
> to conflicting redefinitions.
> That is a reason why I want to apply this patch ASAP: new copies show
> up all the time.

In a preparation patch, for each driver:

 +#ifndef field_prep
 #define field_prep() ...
 +#endif

Or simply

 +#undef field_prep
 #define field_prep() ...

Then add the generic field_prep() in a separate patch. Then you can drop
ifdefery in the drivers.

Yeah, more patches, but the result is cleaner.

> > > --- a/include/linux/bitfield.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/bitfield.h
> > > @@ -220,4 +220,40 @@ __MAKE_OP(64)
> > >  #undef __MAKE_OP
> > >  #undef ____MAKE_OP
> > >
> > > +/**
> > > + * field_prep() - prepare a bitfield element
> > > + * @mask: shifted mask defining the field's length and position
> > > + * @val:  value to put in the field
> > > + *
> > > + * field_prep() masks and shifts up the value.  The result should be
> > > + * combined with other fields of the bitfield using logical OR.
> > > + * Unlike FIELD_PREP(), @mask is not limited to a compile-time constant.
> > > + */
> > > +#define field_prep(mask, val)                                                \
> > > +     ({                                                              \
> > > +             __auto_type __mask = (mask);                            \
> > > +             typeof(mask) __val = (val);                             \
> > > +             unsigned int __shift = sizeof(mask) <= 4 ?              \
> > > +                                    __ffs(__mask) : __ffs64(__mask); \
> > > +             (__val << __shift) & __mask;    \
> >
> > __ffs(0) is undef. The corresponding comment in
> > include/asm-generic/bitops/__ffs.h explicitly says: "code should check
> > against 0 first".
> 
> An all zeroes mask is a bug in the code that calls field_{get,prep}().

It's a bug in FIELD_GET() - for sure. Because it's enforced in
__BF_FIELD_CHECK(). field_get() doesn't enforce it, doesn't even
mention that in the comment.

I'm not fully convinced that empty runtime mask should be a bug.
Consider memcpy(dst, src, 0). This is a no-op, but not a bug as
soon as the pointers are valid. If you _think_ it's a bug - please
enforce it.

> > I think mask = 0 is a sign of error here. Can you add a code catching
> > it at compile time, and maybe at runtime too? Something like:
> >
> >  #define __field_prep(mask, val)
> >  ({
> >         unsigned __shift = sizeof(mask) <= 4 ? __ffs(mask) : __ffs64(mask);
> >         (val << __shift) & mask;
> >  })
> >
> >  #define field_prep(mask, val)
> >  ({
> >         unsigned int __shift;
> >         __auto_type __mask = (mask), __ret = 0;
> >         typeof(mask) __val = (val);
> >
> >         BUILD_BUG_ON_ZERO(const_true(mask == 0));
> 
> Futile, as code with a constant mask should use FIELD_PREP() instead.

It's a weak argument. Sometimes compiler is smart enough to realize
that something is a constant, while people won't. Sometimes code gets
refactored. Sometimes people build complex expressions that should
work both in run-time and compile time cases. Sometimes variables are
compile- or run-time depending on config (nr_cpu_ids is an example).

The field_prep() must handle const case just as good as capitalized
version does.
 
> >         if (WARN_ON_ONCE(mask == 0))
> >                 goto out;
> >
> >         __ret = __field_prep(__mask, __val);
> >  out:
> >         ret;
> >  })
> 
> Should we penalize all users (this is a macro, thus inlined everywhere)
> to protect against something that is clearly a bug in the caller?

No. But we can wrap it with a config:

 #ifdef CONFIG_BITFIELD_HARDENING
         if (WARN_ON_ONCE(mask == 0))
                 goto out;
 #endif

The real question here: do you want to help people to catch their bugs,
or you want them to fight it alone?

The _BF_FIELD_CHECK() authors are nice people and provide helpful guides.
(I don't insist, it's up to you.)

> E.g. do_div() does not check for a zero divisor either.
>
> > > +/**
> > > + * field_get() - extract a bitfield element
> > > + * @mask: shifted mask defining the field's length and position
> > > + * @reg:  value of entire bitfield
> > > + *
> > > + * field_get() extracts the field specified by @mask from the
> > > + * bitfield passed in as @reg by masking and shifting it down.
> > > + * Unlike FIELD_GET(), @mask is not limited to a compile-time constant.
> > > + */
> > > +#define field_get(mask, reg)                                         \
> > > +     ({                                                              \
> > > +             __auto_type __mask = (mask);                            \
> > > +             typeof(mask) __reg =  (reg);                            \
> >
> > This would trigger Wconversion warning. Consider
> >         unsigned reg = 0xfff;
> >         field_get(0xf, reg);
> >
> > <source>:6:26: warning: conversion to 'int' from 'unsigned int' may change the sign of the result [-Wsign-conversion]
> >     6 |     typeof(mask) __reg = reg;
> >       |                          ^~~
> >
> > Notice, the __auto_type makes the __mask to be int, while the reg is
> 
> Apparently using typeof(mask) has the same "issue"...
> 
> > unsigned int. You need to do:
> >
> >         typeof(mask) __reg = (typeof(mask))(reg);
> 
> ... so the cast is just hiding the issue? Worse, the cast may prevent the
> compiler from flagging other issues, e.g. when accidentally passing
> a pointer for reg.
 
Ok, makes sense.

> > Please enable higher warning levels for the next round.
> 
> Enabling -Wsign-conversion gives lots of other (false positive?)
> warnings.
> 
> > Also, because for numerals __auto_type is int, when char is enough - are
> > you sure that the macro generates the optimal code? User can workaround it
> > with:
> >
> >         field_get((u8)0xf, reg)
> >
> > but it may not be trivial. Can you add an example and explanation please?
> 
> These new macros are intended for the case where mask is not a constant.
> So typically it is a variable of type u32 or u64.

You never mentioned that. Anyways, it's again a weak argument.
 
> > > +             unsigned int __shift = sizeof(mask) <= 4 ?              \
> > > +                                    __ffs(__mask) : __ffs64(__mask); \
> >
> > Can you use BITS_PER_TYPE() here?
> 
> Yes, I could use BITS_PER_TYPE(unsigned long) here, to match the
> parameter type of __ffs() (on 64-bit platforms, __ffs() can be used
> unconditionally anyway), at the expense of making the line much longer
> so it has to be split.  Is that worthwhile?
 
Not sure I understand... The

        "unsigned int __shift = BITS_PER_TYPE(mask) < 64 ?"

is 49 chars long vs 42 in your version. Even if you add two tabs, it's
still way below limits. And yes, 

        unsigned int __shift = sizeof(mask) <= 4 ?               \
                                __ffs(__mask) : __ffs64(__mask); \

is worse than

        unsigned int __shift = BITS_PER_TYPE(mask) < 64 ?        \
                                __ffs(__mask) : __ffs64(__mask); \

> > > +             (__reg & __mask) >> __shift;    \
> > > +     })
> > > +
> >
> > When mask == 0, we shouldn't touch 'val' at all. Consider
> >
> >         field_get(0, get_user(ptr))
> >
> > In this case, evaluating 'reg' is an error, similarly to memcpy().
> 
> Again, a zero mask is a bug.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
> 
>                         Geert
> 
> -- 
> Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@...ux-m68k.org
> 
> In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
> when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
>                                 -- Linus Torvalds

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