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Message-ID: <87a51j6zg7.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 17:46:48 +0800
From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...ux.alibaba.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@...il.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,  Will Deacon
 <will@...nel.org>,  Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,  David
 Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>,  Lorenzo Stoakes
 <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>,  Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,  Zi Yan
 <ziy@...dia.com>,  Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@...ux.alibaba.com>,  Ryan
 Roberts <ryan.roberts@....com>,  Yang Shi <yang@...amperecomputing.com>,
  "Christoph Lameter (Ampere)" <cl@...two.org>,  Dev Jain
 <dev.jain@....com>,  Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@....com>,
  Yicong Yang <yangyicong@...ilicon.com>,  Kefeng Wang
 <wangkefeng.wang@...wei.com>,  Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@....com>,  Yin
 Fengwei <fengwei_yin@...ux.alibaba.com>,
  linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,  linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
  linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2 2/2] arm64, tlbflush: don't TLBI broadcast if page
 reused in write fault

Barry Song <21cnbao@...il.com> writes:

>>
>> With PTL, this becomes
>>
>> CPU0:                           CPU1:
>>
>> page fault                      page fault
>> lock PTL
>> write PTE
>> do local tlbi
>> unlock PTL
>>                                 lock PTL        <- pte visible to CPU 1
>>                                 read PTE        <- new PTE
>>                                 do local tlbi   <- new PTE
>>                                 unlock PTL
>
> I agree. Yet the ish barrier can still avoid the page faults during CPU0's PTL.

IIUC, you think that dsb(ish) compared with dsb(nsh) can accelerate
memory writing (visible to other CPUs).  TBH, I suspect that this is the
case.

> CPU0:                                                                  CPU1:
>
> lock PTL
>
> write pte;
> Issue ish barrier
> do local tlbi;
>
>
>     No page fault occurs if tlb misses
>
>
> unlock PTL
>
>
> Otherwise, it could be:
>
>
> CPU0:                                                                  CPU1:
>
> lock PTL
>
> write pte;
> Issue nsh barrier
> do local tlbi;
>
>
>     page fault occurs if tlb misses
>
>
> unlock PTL
>
>
> Not quite sure if adding an ish right after the PTE modification has any
> noticeable performance impact on the test? I assume the most expensive part
> is still the tlbi broadcast dsb, not the PTE memory sync barrier?

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

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