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Message-ID: <i7xxy33do4q4odvxxb77xv4ri5jgr6dup5kvfsjfs4h7mbmhrj@h3ke7h5whyvx>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 17:28:58 +0100
From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@...nel.org>
To: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@....com>
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@...e.de>, 
	Francesco Valla <francesco@...la.it>, Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@...ux.intel.com>, 
	David Airlie <airlied@...il.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@...ll.ch>, 
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, Jocelyn Falempe <jfalempe@...hat.com>, 
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@...hat.com>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, linux-embedded@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/3] Add splash DRM client

On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:01:55AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> On 10/27/25 7:35 AM, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > > >    - a very simple progress bar, which can be driven through sysfs;
> > 
> > Once you have options to control these settings from user space, you
> > should do it in user space entirely. As Maxime suggested, please improve
> > plymouth for anything with animation.
> > 
> > > >    - a static image (optional).
> > 
> > Board vendors often provide an image, see /sys/firmware/acpi/bgrt/. This
> > is a candidate for display, or the penguin or a custom image. Please
> > make it configurable by Kconfig. Again, if you need policy and
> > heuristics for deciding what to display, you better do this in user
> > space.
> 
> I'd actually argue that the static image from BGRT should be the preferred
> priority.  This can make for a nice hand off to Plymouth.
> 
> The (UEFI) BIOS already will show this image as soon as the GOP driver is
> loaded.  Bootloaders like GRUB by default will avoid showing anything or
> will overwrite with the exact same image in the same location.  This can let
> the kernel do the same, and then the moment Plymouth takes over it could do
> the same.

And BGRT isn't typically found on embedded systems at all, so I'm not
sure it's a sensible default, let alone a priority. At most a possible
fallback.

Maxime

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