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Message-ID: <de796658-ed1d-41f1-b153-f3d1089656ba@nvidia.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 11:46:36 -0700
From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@...il.com>,
 Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@...dia.com>
Cc: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@...gle.com>, David Airlie <airlied@...il.com>,
 Simona Vetter <simona@...ll.ch>, Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@...nel.org>,
 Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@...il.com>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
 Gary Guo <gary@...yguo.net>, Björn Roy Baron
 <bjorn3_gh@...tonmail.com>, Benno Lossin <lossin@...nel.org>,
 Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@...nel.org>, Trevor Gross <tmgross@...ch.edu>,
 Alistair Popple <apopple@...dia.com>, Joel Fernandes
 <joelagnelf@...dia.com>, Timur Tabi <ttabi@...dia.com>,
 Edwin Peer <epeer@...dia.com>, nouveau@...ts.freedesktop.org,
 dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
 rust-for-linux@...r.kernel.org, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@...nel.org>,
 Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] gpu: nova-core: add extra conversion functions and
 traits

On 10/26/25 9:44 AM, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2025 at 3:40 PM Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@...dia.com> wrote:
...

> Regarding the `.into_as()` name, it makes sense, but it can be a bit
> surprising when reading out of context... The standalone functions are
> super clear, in comparison. But I am not sure what could be better.
> `into_in_this_arch()` or similar could emphasize that this will only
> work in certain architectures, i.e. it is "an `into()` for this arch"
> rather than the general one.
> That would go well with the idea that you didn't implement it for
> other obvious types, which I guess was to avoid developers using this
> instead of `into()` by mistake, right?
> 

Exactly: the into-as, from-as naming suffers from *appearing* to be
familiar and readable, but actually, the naming gives no hint as to 
what it is really doing--nor how it is subtly different from the
basic from/as/into standard conversions.

Instead, we need to add something (almost anything) to the name, to
make it clearly different from the from/as/into.

into_for_arch() goes in that direction, for example.

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard


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