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Message-ID: <aQBpoI+93UZg1SqN@wu-Pro-E500-G6-WS720T>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:58:40 +0800
From: Guan-Chun Wu <409411716@....tku.edu.tw>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@...il.com>
Cc: Caleb Sander Mateos <csander@...estorage.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/6] lib/base64: Optimize base64_decode() with reverse
 lookup tables

On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 02:18:02PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 21:12:00 +0800
> Guan-Chun Wu <409411716@....tku.edu.tw> wrote:
> 
> ...
> > Hi David,
> > 
> > I noticed your suggested approach:
> > val_24 = t[b[0]] | t[b[1]] << 6 | t[b[2]] << 12 | t[b[3]] << 18;
> > Per the C11 draft, this can lead to undefined behavior.
> > "If E1 has a signed type and nonnegative value, and E1 × 2^E2 is
> > representable in the result type, then that is the resulting value;
> > otherwise, the behavior is undefined."
> > Therefore, left-shifting a negative signed value is undefined behavior.
> 
> Don't worry about that, there are all sorts of places in the kernel
> where shifts of negative values are technically undefined.
> 
> They are undefined because you get different values for 1's compliment
> and 'sign overpunch' signed integers.
> Even for 2's compliment C doesn't require a 'sign bit replicating'
> right shift.
> (And I suspect both gcc and clang only support 2's compliment.)
> 
> I don't think even clang is stupid enough to silently not emit any
> instructions for shifts of negative values.
> It is another place where it should be 'implementation defined' rather
> than 'undefined' behaviour.
>

Hi David,

Thanks for your explanation. I'll proceed with the modification according
to your original suggestion.

Best regards,
Guan-Chun

> > Perhaps we could change the code as shown below. What do you think?
> 
> If you are really worried, change the '<< n' to '* (1 << n)' which
> obfuscates the code.
> The compiler will convert it straight back to a simple shift.
> 
> I bet that if you look hard enough even 'a | b' is undefined if
> either is negative.
> 
> 	David
> 
> 
> 
> 	David

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