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Message-ID: <4497733.UPlyArG6xL@fedora.fritz.box>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 09:09:06 +0100
From: Francesco Valla <francesco@...la.it>
To: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@....com>,
 Maxime Ripard <mripard@...nel.org>
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@...e.de>,
 Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@...ux.intel.com>,
 David Airlie <airlied@...il.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@...ll.ch>,
 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, Jocelyn Falempe <jfalempe@...hat.com>,
 Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@...hat.com>,
 Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
 dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
 linux-embedded@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/3] Add splash DRM client

Hi,

On Monday, 27 October 2025 at 18:19:12 Maxime Ripard <mripard@...nel.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:31:06AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > On 10/27/25 11:28 AM, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:01:55AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > > On 10/27/25 7:35 AM, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > > > > > >     - a very simple progress bar, which can be driven through sysfs;
> > > > > 
> > > > > Once you have options to control these settings from user space, you
> > > > > should do it in user space entirely. As Maxime suggested, please improve
> > > > > plymouth for anything with animation.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >     - a static image (optional).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Board vendors often provide an image, see /sys/firmware/acpi/bgrt/. This
> > > > > is a candidate for display, or the penguin or a custom image. Please
> > > > > make it configurable by Kconfig. Again, if you need policy and
> > > > > heuristics for deciding what to display, you better do this in user
> > > > > space.
> > > > 
> > > > I'd actually argue that the static image from BGRT should be the preferred
> > > > priority.  This can make for a nice hand off to Plymouth.
> > > > 
> > > > The (UEFI) BIOS already will show this image as soon as the GOP driver is
> > > > loaded.  Bootloaders like GRUB by default will avoid showing anything or
> > > > will overwrite with the exact same image in the same location.  This can let
> > > > the kernel do the same, and then the moment Plymouth takes over it could do
> > > > the same.
> > > 
> > > And BGRT isn't typically found on embedded systems at all, so I'm not
> > > sure it's a sensible default, let alone a priority. At most a possible
> > 
> > There are certainly embedded machines using UEFI and that have a BGRT.
> 
> Yes, indeed, hence the "typically".
> 
> > How about "Sensible default the top of the priority list if it exists"
> 
> How about we don't tell contributors what their priorities must be?
> 
> Maxime
> 

I'm not familiar at all with BGRT, I'll study a bit about it.

A build-time configuration could then let the user select:

- a plain solid color
- a custom static image
- the penguin logo (?)
- (on UEFI systems) BGRT source



Thank you

Regards,
Francesco

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