linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 02/15] dt-bindings: Add trickle-charge upper limit

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Message-ID: <3d58eb1e-7889-48c3-980b-bd2a98368a3e@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 08:24:14 +0200
From: Matti Vaittinen <mazziesaccount@...il.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@...nel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/15] dt-bindings: Add trickle-charge upper limit

On 29/10/2025 08:17, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 29/10/2025 07:03, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 01:45:05PM +0200, Matti Vaittinen wrote:
>>> Some of the chargers for lithium-ion batteries use a trickle-charging as
>>> a first charging phase for very empty batteries, to "wake-up" the battery.
>>
>> In the few cases I was dealing with charging circuits, trickle charging
>> was used in context of top-off charging, so when battery is 100%. It's
>> also documented at Wiki like that:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle_charging
>>
>>> Trickle-charging is a low current, constant current phase. After the
>>> voltage of the very empty battery has reached an upper limit for
>>> trickle charging, the pre-charge phase is started with a higher current.
>>>
>>> Allow defining the upper limit for trickle charging voltage, after which
>>> the charging should be changed to the pre-charging.
>>
>> pre-charging is the trickle charging, no? Or you want to say that
>> trickle-charging is pre-pre-charging? But then what is pre-charging in
>> this binding?
> 
> 
> Now I see that you added initial trickle-charging in commit
> e3420b49949c79d6182dd8128fa7a3958da01b07. I looked at TI chargers for
> LiIon/LiPo batteries and few popular models use the same meaning/cycles
> as you here. Probably in LiIon/LiPo you cannot or should not use trickle
> for top-off charging (CV phase).
> 
> For NiMh these TI chargers use term "Trickle Maintenance Charge" (e.g.
> bq24400), so in separate or this patch please also clarify the
> description of properties that this is trickle-charging for LiIon/LiPo
> batteries, so the pre-pre charging.

Right. I'll try improving the description. Thanks!

> 
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof