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Message-ID: <aQOOxybyymnUk8fr@slm.duckdns.org>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 06:13:59 -1000
From: Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
To: Song Liu <song@...nel.org>
Cc: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@...ux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@...ux.dev>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>,
	JP Kobryn <inwardvessel@...il.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	cgroups@...r.kernel.org, bpf@...r.kernel.org,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@...nel.org>,
	Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/23] bpf: initial support for attaching struct ops
 to cgroups

Hello,

On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 09:32:44PM -0700, Song Liu wrote:
> If the use case is to attach a single struct_ops to a single cgroup, the author
> of that BPF program can always ignore the memcg parameter and use
> global variables, etc. We waste a register in BPF ISA to save the pointer to
> memcg,  but JiT may recover that in native instructions.
> 
> OTOH, starting without a memcg parameter, it will be impossible to allow
> attaching the same struct_ops to different cgroups. I still think it is a valid
> use case that the sysadmin loads a set of OOM handlers for users in the
> containers to choose from is a valid use case.

I find something like that being implemented through struct_ops attaching
rather unlikely. Wouldn't it look more like the following?

- Attach a handler at the parent level which implements different policies.

- Child cgroups pick the desired policy using e.g. cgroup xattrs and when
  OOM event happens, the OOM handler attached at the parent implements the
  requested policy.

- If further customization is desired and supported, it's implemented
  through child loading its own OOM handler which operates under the
  parent's OOM handler.

> Also, a per cgroup oom handler may need to access the memcg information
> anyway. Without a dedicated memcg argument, the user need to fetch it
> somewhere else.

An OOM handler attached to a cgroup doesn't just need to handle OOM events
in the cgroup itself. It's responsible for the whole sub-hierarchy. ie. It
will need accessors to reach all those memcgs anyway.

Another thing to consider is that the memcg for a given cgroup can change by
the controller being enabled and disabled. There isn't the one permanent
memcg that a given cgroup is associated with.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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