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Message-ID: <CAP-5=fUsK9+d0=f2RuTQBfooVZ6qTPZ=XQZ_z7DaH08FG6tV9w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 13:51:39 -0700
From: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, 
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>, 
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>, 
	Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>, 
	James Clark <james.clark@...aro.org>, Xu Yang <xu.yang_2@....com>, 
	Chun-Tse Shao <ctshao@...gle.com>, Thomas Richter <tmricht@...ux.ibm.com>, 
	Sumanth Korikkar <sumanthk@...ux.ibm.com>, Collin Funk <collin.funk1@...il.com>, 
	Thomas Falcon <thomas.falcon@...el.com>, Howard Chu <howardchu95@...il.com>, 
	Dapeng Mi <dapeng1.mi@...ux.intel.com>, Levi Yun <yeoreum.yun@....com>, 
	Yang Li <yang.lee@...ux.alibaba.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>, 
	Weilin Wang <weilin.wang@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/22] Switch the default perf stat metrics to json

On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 10:59 AM Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> Prior to this series stat-shadow would produce hard coded metrics if
> certain events appeared in the evlist. This series produces equivalent
> json metrics and cleans up the consequences in tests and display
> output. A before and after of the default display output on a
> tigerlake is:
>
> Before:
> ```
> $ perf stat -a sleep 1
>
>  Performance counter stats for 'system wide':
>
>     16,041,816,418      cpu-clock                        #   15.995 CPUs utilized
>              5,749      context-switches                 #  358.376 /sec
>                121      cpu-migrations                   #    7.543 /sec
>              1,806      page-faults                      #  112.581 /sec
>        825,965,204      instructions                     #    0.70  insn per cycle
>      1,180,799,101      cycles                           #    0.074 GHz
>        168,945,109      branches                         #   10.532 M/sec
>          4,629,567      branch-misses                    #    2.74% of all branches
>  #     30.2 %  tma_backend_bound
>                                                   #      7.8 %  tma_bad_speculation
>                                                   #     47.1 %  tma_frontend_bound
>  #     14.9 %  tma_retiring
> ```
>
> After:
> ```
> $ perf stat -a sleep 1
>
>  Performance counter stats for 'system wide':
>
>              2,890      context-switches                 #    179.9 cs/sec  cs_per_second
>     16,061,923,339      cpu-clock                        #     16.0 CPUs  CPUs_utilized
>                 43      cpu-migrations                   #      2.7 migrations/sec  migrations_per_second
>              5,645      page-faults                      #    351.5 faults/sec  page_faults_per_second
>          5,708,413      branch-misses                    #      1.4 %  branch_miss_rate         (88.83%)
>        429,978,120      branches                         #     26.8 K/sec  branch_frequency     (88.85%)
>      1,626,915,897      cpu-cycles                       #      0.1 GHz  cycles_frequency       (88.84%)
>      2,556,805,534      instructions                     #      1.5 instructions  insn_per_cycle  (88.86%)
>                         TopdownL1                 #     20.1 %  tma_backend_bound
>                                                   #     40.5 %  tma_bad_speculation      (88.90%)
>                                                   #     17.2 %  tma_frontend_bound       (78.05%)
>                                                   #     22.2 %  tma_retiring             (88.89%)
>
>        1.002994394 seconds time elapsed
> ```
>
> Having the metrics in json brings greater uniformity, allows events to
> be shared by metrics, and it also allows descriptions like:
> ```
> $ perf list cs_per_second
> ...
>   cs_per_second
>        [Context switches per CPU second]
> ```
>
> A thorn in the side of doing this work was that the hard coded metrics
> were used by perf script with '-F metric'. This functionality didn't
> work for me (I was testing `perf record -e instructions,cycles` and
> then `perf script -F metric` but saw nothing but empty lines) but
> anyway I decided to fix it to the best of my ability in this
> series. So the script side counters were removed and the regular ones
> associated with the evsel used. The json metrics were all searched
> looking for ones that have a subset of events matching those in the
> perf script session, and all metrics are printed. This is kind of
> weird as the counters are being set by the period of samples, but I
> carried the behavior forward. I suspect there needs to be follow up
> work to make this better, but what is in the series is superior to
> what is currently in the tree. Follow up work could include finding
> metrics for the machine in the perf.data rather than using the host,
> allowing multiple metrics even if the metric ids of the events differ,
> fixing pre-existing `perf stat record/report` issues, etc.
>
> There is a lot of stat tests that, for example, assume '-e
> instructions,cycles' will produce an IPC metric. These things needed
> tidying as now the metric must be explicitly asked for and when doing
> this ones using software events were preferred to increase
> compatibility. As the test updates were numerous they are distinct to
> the patches updating the functionality causing periods in the series
> where not all tests are passing. If this is undesirable the test fixes
> can be squashed into the functionality updates.

Hi,

no comments on this series yet, please help! I'd like to land this
work and then rebase the python generating metric work [1] on it. The
metric generation work is largely independent of everything else but
there are collisions in the json Makefile/Build files.

Thanks,
Ian

[1]
* Foundations: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240228175617.4049201-1-irogers@google.com/
* AMD: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240229001537.4158049-1-irogers@google.com/
* Intel: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240229001806.4158429-1-irogers@google.com/
* ARM: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240229001325.4157655-1-irogers@google.com/



> Ian Rogers (22):
>   perf evsel: Remove unused metric_events variable
>   perf metricgroup: Update comment on location of metric_event list
>   perf metricgroup: Missed free on error path
>   perf metricgroup: When copy metrics copy default information
>   perf metricgroup: Add care to picking the evsel for displaying a
>     metric
>   perf jevents: Make all tables static
>   perf expr: Add #target_cpu literal
>   perf jevents: Add set of common metrics based on default ones
>   perf jevents: Add metric DefaultShowEvents
>   perf stat: Add detail -d,-dd,-ddd metrics
>   perf script: Change metric format to use json metrics
>   perf stat: Remove hard coded shadow metrics
>   perf stat: Fix default metricgroup display on hybrid
>   perf stat: Sort default events/metrics
>   perf stat: Remove "unit" workarounds for metric-only
>   perf test stat+json: Improve metric-only testing
>   perf test stat: Ignore failures in Default[234] metricgroups
>   perf test stat: Update std_output testing metric expectations
>   perf test metrics: Update all metrics for possibly failing default
>     metrics
>   perf test stat: Update shadow test to use metrics
>   perf test stat: Update test expectations and events
>   perf test stat csv: Update test expectations and events
>
>  tools/perf/builtin-script.c                   | 238 ++++++++++-
>  tools/perf/builtin-stat.c                     | 154 ++-----
>  .../arch/common/common/metrics.json           | 151 +++++++
>  tools/perf/pmu-events/empty-pmu-events.c      | 139 ++++--
>  tools/perf/pmu-events/jevents.py              |  34 +-
>  tools/perf/pmu-events/pmu-events.h            |   2 +
>  .../tests/shell/lib/perf_json_output_lint.py  |   4 +-
>  tools/perf/tests/shell/lib/stat_output.sh     |   2 +-
>  tools/perf/tests/shell/stat+csv_output.sh     |   2 +-
>  tools/perf/tests/shell/stat+json_output.sh    |   2 +-
>  tools/perf/tests/shell/stat+shadow_stat.sh    |   4 +-
>  tools/perf/tests/shell/stat+std_output.sh     |   4 +-
>  tools/perf/tests/shell/stat.sh                |   6 +-
>  .../perf/tests/shell/stat_all_metricgroups.sh |   3 +
>  tools/perf/tests/shell/stat_all_metrics.sh    |   7 +-
>  tools/perf/util/evsel.c                       |   2 -
>  tools/perf/util/evsel.h                       |   2 +-
>  tools/perf/util/expr.c                        |   3 +
>  tools/perf/util/metricgroup.c                 |  95 ++++-
>  tools/perf/util/metricgroup.h                 |   2 +-
>  tools/perf/util/stat-display.c                |  55 +--
>  tools/perf/util/stat-shadow.c                 | 402 +-----------------
>  tools/perf/util/stat.h                        |   2 +-
>  23 files changed, 672 insertions(+), 643 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/common/common/metrics.json
>
> --
> 2.51.1.821.gb6fe4d2222-goog
>

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