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Message-ID: <20251031-smartness-cattishly-465de28ec20b@spud>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2025 15:08:04 +0000
From: Conor Dooley <conor@...nel.org>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
Cc: Buday Csaba <buday.csaba@...lan.hu>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>,
	Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@...nel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@...nel.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: net: ethernet-phy: clarify when compatible
 must specify PHY ID

On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 02:01:26PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 09:15:06AM +0100, Buday Csaba wrote:
> > Change PHY ID description in ethernet-phy.yaml to clarify that a
> > PHY ID is required (may -> must) when the PHY requires special
> > initialization sequence.
> > 
> > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20251026212026.GA2959311-robh@kernel.org/
> > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/aQIZvDt5gooZSTcp@debianbuilder/
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Buday Csaba <buday.csaba@...lan.hu>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml | 7 ++++---
> >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml
> > index 2ec2d9fda..6f5599902 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml
> > @@ -35,9 +35,10 @@ properties:
> >          description: PHYs that implement IEEE802.3 clause 45
> >        - pattern: "^ethernet-phy-id[a-f0-9]{4}\\.[a-f0-9]{4}$"
> >          description:
> > -          If the PHY reports an incorrect ID (or none at all) then the
> > -          compatible list may contain an entry with the correct PHY ID
> > -          in the above form.
> > +          If the PHY reports an incorrect ID (or none at all), or the PHY
> > +          requires a specific initialization sequence (like a particular
> > +          order of clocks, resets, power supplies), then the compatible list
> > +          must contain an entry with the correct PHY ID in the above form.
> 
> That is good start, but how about:
> 
>           PHYs contain identification registers. These will be read to
>           identify the PHY. If the PHY reports an incorrect ID, or the
>           PHY requires a specific initialization sequence (like a
>           particular order of clocks, resets, power supplies), in
>           order to be able to read the ID registers, then the
>           compatible list must contain an entry with the correct PHY
>           ID in the above form.
> 
> The first two sentences make it clear we ideally use the ID registers.
> Then we say what happens if cannot work.
> 
> The "(or none at all)" is exactly the case you are trying to clarify,
> it does not respond due to missing reset, clocks etc. We don't need to
> say it twice, so i removed it.

I like this wording,
Acked-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@...rochip.com>
pw-bot: changes-requested

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