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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2025 00:15:54 +0000
From: Jacky Chou <jacky_chou@...eedtech.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@...nel.org>
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Subject: [PATCH net-next v3 1/4] dt-bindings: net: ftgmac100: Add delay
 properties for AST2600

> >>>>> Create the new compatibles to identify AST2600 MAC0/1 and MAC3/4.
> >>>>> Add conditional schema constraints for Aspeed AST2600 MAC
> controllers:
> >>>>> - For "aspeed,ast2600-mac01", require rx/tx-internal-delay-ps properties
> >>>>>   with 45ps step.
> >>>>> - For "aspeed,ast2600-mac23", require rx/tx-internal-delay-ps properties
> >>>>>   with 250ps step.
> >>>>
> >>>> That difference does not justify different compatibles. Basically
> >>>> you said they have same programming model, just different hardware
> >>>> characteristics, so same compatible.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> This change was originally based on feedback from a previous review
> >> discussion.
> >>> At that time, another reviewer suggested introducing separate
> >>> compatibles for
> >>> MAC0/1 and MAC2/3 on AST2600, since the delay characteristics differ
> >>> and they might not be fully compatible.
> >>
> >>
> >> Your commit msg does not provide enough of rationale for that.
> >> Difference in DTS properties is rather a counter argument for having
> >> separate compatibles. That's why you have these properties - to mark the
> difference.
> >>
> >
> > Actually, on the AST2600 there are two dies, and each die has its own MAC.
> > The MACs on these two dies indeed have different delay configurations.
> 
> Is this the logic like: we have multiple snps,dw-apb-uart UARTs on the device,
> so we need snps,dw-apb-uart-1, snps,dw-apb-uart-2 and snps,dw-apb-uart-3?
> 

You are right. That doesn't make sense..

> >
> > Previously, the driver did not configure these delays - they were set
> > earlier during the bootloader stage. Now, I'm planning to use the
> > properties defined in ethernet-controller.yaml to configure these delays
> properly within the driver.
> >
> > Since these legacy settings have been used for quite some time, I'd
> > like to deprecate the old compatible and clearly distinguish that the
> > AST2600 contains two different MACs. Future platforms based on the
> > AST2600 will use the new compatibles with the correct PHY and delay
> configurations.
> 
> Why are you repeating the same? So I will repeat the same. You need to
> provide rationale why different compatible is justified. Difference in delay itself
> is not the enough. Please write concise answer based on device programming
> model differences or other rules expressed in writing bindings or numerous
> presentations.
> 

I plan to remove the new compatible entry used to identify these MACs and instead 
add a new property to specify the delay step value.
However, I have one question I'd like to discuss with you.

There are four MACs in the AST2600. In the DT bindings and DTS files, what would be 
the recommended way to identify which MAC is which?
In version 3 of my patches, I used the aliases in the DTSI file to allow the driver to get 
the MAC index.

Do you think this is a good approach? Or would it be better to create a new property 
in the DTSI to explicitly configure the index and identify each MAC?

Thanks for your time and suggestions.

Thanks,
Jacky

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