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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 22:38:14 +0100
From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To: dan.j.williams@...el.com
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>, Dhruva Gole <d-gole@...com>,
Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@...wei.com>, Frank Li <Frank.Li@....com>,
Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>, Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Zhang Qilong <zhangqilong3@...wei.com>, Linux PCI <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] PM: runtime: Wrapper macros for usage counter guards
On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 10:27 PM <dan.j.williams@...el.com> wrote:
>
> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 12, 2025 7:39:41 AM CET Dhruva Gole wrote:
> > > On Nov 07, 2025 at 19:35:09 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > The runtime PM usage counter guards introduced recently:
> > > >
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/6196611.lOV4Wx5bFT@rafael.j.wysocki/
> > > >
> > > > and then fixed:
> > > >
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/5943878.DvuYhMxLoT@rafael.j.wysocki/
> > > >
> > > > should generally work, but using them feels sort of arcane and cryptic
> > > > even though the underlying concept is relatively straightforward.
> > > >
> > > > For this reason, runtime PM wrapper macros around ACQUIRE() and
> > > > ACQUIRE_ERR() involving the new guards are introduced in this series
> > > > (patch [1/3]) and then used in the code already using the guards (patches
> > > > [2/3] and [3/3]) to make it look more straightforward.
> > >
> > > The patches look okay to me,
> > > Reviewed-by: Dhruva Gole <d-gole@...com>
> >
> > Thank you and Jonathan for the tags, but since Frank is not convinced, let me
> > bounce one more idea off all of you.
> >
> > Namely, I think that Frank has a point when he wonders if PM_RUNTIME_ACQUIRE_ERR
> > hides too much information and I agree with Jonathan that may be misunderstood,
> > so what about defining the wrapper macros so they don't hide the guard variable
> > name, like in the patch below?
>
> I had been reluctant about offering an enthusiastic tag on this series
> given that information hiding, but with this change:
>
> Reviewed-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
Thanks!
> However, I prefer that the scope variable declaration vs usage
> (reference) cases should maintain visual separation with an operator,
> i.e.:
>
> PM_RUNTIME_ACQUIRE(dev, pm);
> if (PM_RUNTIME_ACQUIRE_ERR(&pm))
> return -ENXIO;
>
> Otherwise we have a case of different flavors of *_ACQUIRE_ERR
> implementing various styles. I initially looked at hiding the '&':
>
> http://lore.kernel.org/681ea7d5ea04b_2a2bb100cf@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch
>
> ...but it grew on me precisely because it provides a clue about how this
> magic operates.
Fair enough.
I'll resend the series with this change then.
Thank you!
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