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Message-ID: <aRhJ7kmYqDsb8iYW@pie>
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2025 09:37:50 +0000
From: Yao Zi <ziyao@...root.org>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@...n.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
	Yanteng Si <si.yanteng@...ux.dev>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@...nel.org>,
	Philipp Stanner <phasta@...nel.org>,
	Tiezhu Yang <yangtiezhu@...ngson.cn>,
	Qunqin Zhao <zhaoqunqin@...ngson.cn>,
	Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@....com>,
	Furong Xu <0x1207@...il.com>,
	Kunihiko Hayashi <hayashi.kunihiko@...ionext.com>,
	Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@...el.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v4 1/3] net: stmmac: Add generic suspend/resume
 helper for PCI-based controllers

On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 03:15:45PM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 06:57:20AM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:07:26 +0000 Yao Zi wrote:
> > > +config STMMAC_LIBPCI
> > > +	tristate "STMMAC PCI helper library"
> > > +	depends on PCI
> > > +	default y
> > > +	help
> > > +	  This selects the PCI bus helpers for the stmmac driver. If you
> > > +	  have a controller with PCI interface, say Y or M here.
> > 
> > I didn't pay enough attention to the discussion on v2, sorry.
> > I understand that there's precedent for a library symbol hiding
> > real symbols in this driver but it really makes for a poor user
> > experience.
> > 
> > The symbol should be hidden, and select'ed by what needs it.
> > With the PCI dependency on the real symbol, not here.
> > 
> > The "default y" may draw the attention of the Superior Penguin.
> > He may have quite a lot to criticize in this area, so let's
> > not risk it..
> 
> Okay, should we also convert STMMAC_PLATFORM to behave the same way,
> because it's odd to have one bus type acting one way and the other
> differently.

I don't have a strong opinion about the Kconfig style, so should I go
back to make drivers select STMMAC_LIBPCI as suggested by Maxime in
v2[1], and drop the "default y" statement from STMMAC_LIBPCI?

Best regards,
Yao Zi

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/da8d9585-d464-4611-98c0-a10d84874297@bootlin.com/

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