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Message-ID: <20251117091609-d41b5c1b-5781-41b8-aba7-d671a2f58be1@linutronix.de>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 09:30:35 +0100
From: Thomas Weißschuh <thomas.weissschuh@...utronix.de>
To: Nicolas Schier <nsc@...nel.org>
Cc: Simon Glass <sjg@...omium.org>, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, 
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>, Chen-Yu Tsai <wenst@...omium.org>, Tom Rini <trini@...sulko.com>, 
	Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@...gutronix.de>, J . Neuschäfer <j.ne@...teo.net>, 
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@...nel.org>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>, 
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...nel.org>, 
	Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>, Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@...nel.org>, 
	Parth Pancholi <parth.pancholi@...adex.com>, Rong Xu <xur@...gle.com>, Tamir Duberstein <tamird@...il.com>, 
	Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/8] kbuild: Allow adding modules into the FIT ramdisk

On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 08:50:27PM +0100, Nicolas Schier wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 04:29:33PM +0100, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 07:27:32AM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:

(...)

> > >  quiet_cmd_fit = FIT     $@
> > > -      cmd_fit = $(MAKE_FIT) -o $@ --arch $(UIMAGE_ARCH) --os linux \
> > > -		--name '$(UIMAGE_NAME)' \
> > > +      cmd_fit = $(if $(FIT_MODULES), \
> > > +		find $(objtree) -name '*.ko' > $(objtree)/.modules-list 2>/dev/null &&) \
> > 
> > This will include stale module files. You can get an up-to-date list from
> > $(objtree)/modules.order with a bit post-processing.
> > Maybe kbuild can be extended to also create a list of the .ko files.
> > (I would be interested in that for my own usecases, too)
> 
> oh yes, thanks for the pointer.  This is indeed quite simple and much
> better than calling find.  For in-tree kmods:
> 
>     compiled-modules = $(patsubst %.o,%.ko,$(call read-file, $(objtree)/modules.order))

Tiny nitpick: IMO 'built' modules would be more accurate than 'compiled' modules.

> But as we need the list of modules in a file, we can also add a
> $(call write-file,FILE,TEXT) macro (cp. read-file in
> scripts/Kbuild.include).

> Thomas, is this sufficient for your use case?  Or do you also need a
> make target outputting the list of kmods?

For my usecase I need it in a file [0], passing them on the command line will
likely run into argument list length limitations.

A new file 'modules.built' generated from modules.order would be useful both
for this patch, mine and other tools like scripts/package/builddeb.
(Or 'modules.loadable', matching the scheme from 'modules.builtin')
On the other hand the modules.order seems to have quite some special logic in
the Makefile, so it may not be straigtforward to add such a file.

[0] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250429-module-hashes-v3-9-00e9258def9e@weissschuh.net/#Z31scripts:module-hashes.sh


Thomas

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