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Message-ID: <fd65b83abc22587e592a565dd2b326e8eb63f34c.camel@irl.hu>
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 09:48:02 +0100
From: Gergo Koteles <soyer@....hu>
To: Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@...omium.org>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>,
  Hans de Goede <hansg@...nel.org>,
  Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...nel.org>,
  Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
  linux-media@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
  linux-usb@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] media: uvcvideo: Introduce allow_privacy_override

Hi Ricardo,

On Tue, 2025-11-18 at 07:21 +0100, Ricardo Ribalda wrote:
> 
> Most users expect that the led is always on when the camera is active.
> I think the usecases where the led should not be turned on are spooky
> or very limited.
> 

Or do most users expect that if a piece of hardware has a setting, they
can set it without module parameters?

> Even if you use open-source software, when it parses user generated
> data, there is a risk for bugs. If there is a bug the only thing
> protecting the security of the camera is the membership of the video
> group which is a very low barrier. And once you manage to change the
> LED behaviour will persist in other unrelated apps.
> 

So this is about what if an attacker accessed my passwords, private
keys, OTP tokens, emails, pictures and then couldn't take a fresh
picture of me in the dark without an LED? I'm smart as hell and I use a
privacy tape anyway ;)

I think freedom is worth more than this kind of fear.


Gergo

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