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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2025 11:09:09 +0900
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 44/47] dept: introduce APIs to set page usage and use
 subclasses_evt for the usage

On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 02:37:17PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 07:53:12PM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 05:12:44PM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > > False positive reports have been observed since dept works with the
> > > assumption that all the pages have the same dept class, but the class
> > > should be split since the problematic call paths are different depending
> > > on what the page is used for.
> > >
> > > At least, ones in block device's address_space and ones in regular
> > > file's address_space have exclusively different usages.
> > >
> > > Thus, define usage candidates like:
> > >
> > >    DEPT_PAGE_REGFILE_CACHE /* page in regular file's address_space */
> > >    DEPT_PAGE_BDEV_CACHE    /* page in block device's address_space */
> > >    DEPT_PAGE_DEFAULT       /* the others */
> >
> > 1. I'd like to annotate a page to DEPT_PAGE_REGFILE_CACHE when the page
> >    starts to be associated with a page cache for fs data.
> >
> > 2. And I'd like to annotate a page to DEPT_PAGE_BDEV_CACHE when the page
> >    starts to be associated with meta data of fs e.g. super block.
> >
> > 3. Lastly, I'd like to reset the annotated value if any, that has been
> >    set in the page, when the page ends the assoication with either page
> >    cache or meta block of fs e.g. freeing the page.
> >
> > Can anyone suggest good places in code for the annotation 1, 2, 3?  It'd
> > be totally appreciated. :-)
> 
> I don't think it makes sense to track lock state in the page (nor
> folio).  Partly bcause there's just so many of them, but also because
> the locking rules don't really apply to individual folios so much as
> they do to the mappings (or anon_vmas) that contain folios.

Thank you for the suggestion!

Since two folios associated to different mappings might appear in the
same callpath that usually be classified to a single class, I need to
think how to reflect the suggestion.

I guess you wanted to tell me a folio can only be associated to a single
mapping at once.  Right?  If so, sure, I should reflect it.

> If you're looking to find deadlock scenarios, I think it makes more
> sense to track all folio locks in a given mapping as the same lock
> type rather than track each folio's lock status.
> 
> For example, let's suppose we did something like this in the
> page fault path:
> 
> Look up and lock a folio (we need folios locked to insert them into
> the page tables to avoid a race with truncate)
> Try to allocate a page table
> Go into reclaim, attempt to reclaim a folio from this mapping
> 
> We ought to detect that as a potential deadlock, regardless of which
> folio in the mapping we attempt to reclaim.  So can we track folio

Did you mean 'regardless' for 'potential' detection, right?

> locking at the mapping/anon_vma level instead?

Piece of cake.  Even though it may increase the number of DEPT classes,
I hope it will be okay.  I just need to know the points in code where
folios start/end being associated to their specific mappings.

	Byungchul

> ---
> 
> My current understanding of folio locking rules:
> 
> If you hold a lock on folio A, you can take a lock on folio B if:
> 
> 1. A->mapping == B->mapping and A->index < B->index
>    (for example writeback; we take locks on all folios to be written
>     back in order)
> 2. !S_ISBLK(A->mapping->host) and S_ISBLK(B->mapping->host)
> 3. S_ISREG(A->mapping->host) and S_ISREG(B->mapping->host) with
>    inode_lock() held on both and A->index < B->index
>    (the remap_range code)

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