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Message-ID: <20251125192943.GA3061247@google.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 19:29:43 +0000
From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...nel.org>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>,
	James Clark <james.clark@...aro.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org,
	Pablo Galindo <pablogsal@...il.com>,
	Fangrui Song <maskray@...rceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] perf jitdump: Add sym/str-tables to build-ID
 generation

On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 12:07:46AM -0800, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> It was reported that python backtrace with JIT dump was broken after the
> change to built-in SHA-1 implementation.  It seems python generates the
> same JIT code for each function.  They will become separate DSOs but the
> contents are the same.  Only difference is in the symbol name.
> 
> But this caused a problem that every JIT'ed DSOs will have the same
> build-ID which makes perf confused.  And it resulted in no python
> symbols (from JIT) in the output.
> 
> Looking back at the original code before the conversion, it used the
> load_addr as well as the code section to distinguish each DSO.  But it'd
> be better to use contents of symtab and strtab instead as it aligns with
> some linker behaviors.
> 
> This patch adds a buffer to save all the contents in a single place for
> SHA-1 calculation.  Probably we need to add sha1_update() or similar to
> update the existing hash value with different contents and use it here.
> But it's out of scope for this change and I'd like something that can be
> backported to the stable trees easily.
> 
> Fixes: e3f612c1d8f3945b ("perf genelf: Remove libcrypto dependency and use built-in sha1()")
> Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...nel.org>
> Cc: Pablo Galindo <pablogsal@...il.com>
> Cc: Fangrui Song <maskray@...rceware.org>
> Link: https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/139544
> Signed-off-by: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>

That commit actually preserved the behavior of the existing variant of
gen_build_id() that was under #ifdef BUILD_ID_SHA.  So I guess that code
was always broken, and it was just never noticed because the alternative
variant of gen_build_id() under #ifdef BUILD_ID_MD5 was used instead?

The MD5 variant of gen_build_id() just hashed the load_addr concatenated
with the code.  That's not what this patch does, though.  So just to
clarify, you'd actually like to go with a third approach rather than
just restoring the original hash(load_addr || code) approach?

Also, I missed that you had actually changed the hash algorithm.  I had
assumed the perf folks were were pushing SHA-1 because they were already
using it.  Given that the algorithm changed, there must not be any
backwards compatibility concerns here, and you should switch to a modern
hash algorithm such as SHA-256 instead.

I'd be glad to add an incremental API if you need it, but I'm confused
why you want SHA-1 and not a modern hash algorithm.

- Eric

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