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Message-ID: <20251126080620-921e6880-cacf-44c5-bd8b-f380fbb8090a@linutronix.de>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 08:16:38 +0100
From: Thomas Weißschuh <thomas.weissschuh@...utronix.de>
To: Simon Glass <sjg@...omium.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, 
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>, Tom Rini <trini@...sulko.com>, 
	Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@...gutronix.de>, J . Neuschäfer <j.ne@...teo.net>, 
	Nicolas Schier <nicolas@...sle.eu>, Chen-Yu Tsai <wenst@...omium.org>, 
	Nicolas Schier <nsc@...nel.org>, Nathan Chancellor <nathan@...nel.org>, 
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>, 
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...nel.org>, Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>, Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@...nel.org>, 
	Nicolas Schier <nicolas.schier@...ux.dev>, Rong Xu <xur@...gle.com>, Tamir Duberstein <tamird@...il.com>, 
	Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 6/8] kbuild: Allow adding modules into the FIT ramdisk

On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 02:58:12PM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2025 at 00:49, Thomas Weißschuh
> <thomas.weissschuh@...utronix.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 11:13:27AM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:

(...)

> > >  quiet_cmd_fit = FIT     $@
> > >        cmd_fit = $(MAKE_FIT) -o $@ --arch $(UIMAGE_ARCH) --os linux \
> > > -             --name '$(UIMAGE_NAME)' \
> > > +             --name '$(UIMAGE_NAME)' $(MAKE_FIT_FLAGS) \
> >
> > Remnant of a previous revision?
> 
> The flags are there to allow extra options to be passed if needed.

Are they necessary for the module functionality added here?
If not I'd put them into a dedicated commit.

> >
> > >               $(if $(findstring 1,$(KBUILD_VERBOSE)),-v) \
> > >               $(if $(FIT_DECOMPOSE_DTBS),--decompose-dtbs) \
> > > +             $(if $(FIT_MODULES),--modules @$(objtree)/modules.order) \
> >
> > I am wondering how module dependencies work without the depmod invocation
> > and modules.dep file.
> 
> We have a mechanism to place a pre-build initrd with the filesystem,
> etc. into the FIT. But for this particular feature (suggested by Ahmad
> Fatoum) we are just providing the raw modules. Presumably another
> initrd would be needed to provide the startup files?

modules.dep is more than optional and generic startup files but an integral
part of a module tree. Without it, any module depending on another module's
symbols will fail to load. Also the modules will be unsigned, potentially
making them unloadable. Ahmad's patch does produce a complete and fully
functional module tree by means of 'make headers_install'.

> > >               --compress $(FIT_COMPRESSION) -k $< @$(word 2,$^)
> > >
> > >  # XZ
> > > --
> > > 2.43.0

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