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Message-ID: <8bd4850b0c74fbed531232a4a69603882a5562a1.camel@intel.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2025 19:59:50 +0000
From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add tdx_alloc/free_page() helpers

On Wed, 2025-12-03 at 10:21 -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > Thanks Dave. Yes, let's stick to the spec. I'm going to try to pull the
> > loops
> > out too because we can get rid of the union array thing too.
> 
> Also, I honestly don't see the problem with just allocating an order-1
> page for this. Yeah, the TDX modules doesn't need physically contiguous
> pages, but it's easier for _us_ to lug them around if they are
> physically contiguous.

We have two spin locks to contend with for these allocations. One is the global
spin lock on the arch/x86 side. In this case, the the pages don't have to be
passed far, like:

tdx_pamt_get(some_page, NULL)
	page1 = alloc()
	page2 = alloc()

	scoped_guard(spinlock, &pamt_lock) {
		tdh_phymem_pamt_add(.., page1, page2)
			/* Pack into struct */
			seamcall()
	}

I think it's not too bad?

Then there is the KVM MMU spin lock during the fault path. This lock happens way
up the call chain. It goes something like:

topup_tdx_pages_cache() /* Add order-0 pages for S-EPT page tables and dpamt */ 

spin_lock()

... many calls ...
        order_0_s_ept_page table = alloc_from_order_0_cache();

        tdx_sept_link_private_spt(order_0_s_ept_page)
                tdx_pamt_get(order_0_s_ept_page, order_0_cache)
                        /* alloc two pages from order_0_cache for dpamt */

        tdx_sept_set_private_spte(guest_page)
                tdx_pamt_get(guest_page, order_0_cache)
                        /* alloc two pages from order_0_cache for dpamt*/

spin_unlock()


So if we decide to pass a single order-1 page into tdx_pamt_get() instead of
order_0_cache, we can stop passing the cache between KVM and arch/x86, but we
then need two cache's instead of one. One for order-0 S-EPT page tables and one
for order-1 DPAMT page pairs.

Also, if we have to allocate the order-1 page in each caller, it simplifies the
arch/x86 code, but duplicates the allocation in the KVM callers (only 2 today
though).

So I'm suspicious it's not going to be a big win, but I'll give it a try.

> 
> Plus, if you permanently allocate 2 order-0 pages, you are _probably_
> going to permanently destroy 2 potential future 2MB pages. The order-1
> allocation will only destroy 1.

Doesn't the buddy allocator try to avoid splitting larger blocks? I guess you
mean in the worst case, but the DPAMT should also not be allocated forever
either. So I think it's only at the intersection of two worst cases? Worth it?


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