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Message-ID: <2b31224a6cf361a5d2859c84aa1bcdf52916423e.camel@linux.intel.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2025 09:21:13 -0800
From: srinivas pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>, Christian Loehle
	 <christian.loehle@....com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] cpufreq: Replace trace_cpu_frequency with
 trace_policy_frequency

On Thu, 2025-12-04 at 15:57 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 1:49 PM Christian Loehle
> <christian.loehle@....com> wrote:
> > 
> > On 12/1/25 20:24, Samuel Wu wrote:
> > > The existing cpu_frequency trace_event can be verbose, emitting a
> > > nearly
> > > identical trace event for every CPU in the policy even when their
> > > frequencies are identical.
> > > 
> > > This patch replaces the cpu_frequency trace event with
> > > policy_frequency
> > > trace event, a more efficient alternative. From the kernel's
> > > perspective, emitting a trace event once per policy instead of
> > > once per
> > > cpu saves some memory and is less overhead. From the post-
> > > processing
> > > perspective, analysis of the trace log is simplified without any
> > > loss of
> > > information.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Samuel Wu <wusamuel@...gle.com>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c      | 14 ++------------
> > >  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c |  6 ++++--
> > >  include/trace/events/power.h   | 24 +++++++++++++++++++++---
> > >  kernel/trace/power-traces.c    |  2 +-
> > >  samples/bpf/cpustat_kern.c     |  8 ++++----
> > >  samples/bpf/cpustat_user.c     |  6 +++---
> > >  tools/perf/builtin-timechart.c | 12 ++++++------
> > >  7 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 31 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> > > b/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> > > index 4472bb1ec83c..dd3f08f3b958 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> > > @@ -309,8 +309,6 @@ static void cpufreq_notify_transition(struct
> > > cpufreq_policy *policy,
> > >                                     struct cpufreq_freqs *freqs,
> > >                                     unsigned int state)
> > >  {
> > > -     int cpu;
> > > -
> > >       BUG_ON(irqs_disabled());
> > > 
> > >       if (cpufreq_disabled())
> > > @@ -344,10 +342,7 @@ static void cpufreq_notify_transition(struct
> > > cpufreq_policy *policy,
> > >               adjust_jiffies(CPUFREQ_POSTCHANGE, freqs);
> > >               pr_debug("FREQ: %u - CPUs: %*pbl\n", freqs->new,
> > >                        cpumask_pr_args(policy->cpus));
> > > -
> > > -             for_each_cpu(cpu, policy->cpus)
> > > -                     trace_cpu_frequency(freqs->new, cpu);
> > > -
> > > +             trace_policy_frequency(freqs->new, policy->cpu,
> > > policy->cpus);
> > >              
> > > srcu_notifier_call_chain(&cpufreq_transition_notifier_list,
> > >                                        CPUFREQ_POSTCHANGE,
> > > freqs);
> > > 
> > > @@ -2201,7 +2196,6 @@ unsigned int
> > > cpufreq_driver_fast_switch(struct cpufreq_policy *policy,
> > >                                       unsigned int target_freq)
> > >  {
> > >       unsigned int freq;
> > > -     int cpu;
> > > 
> > >       target_freq = clamp_val(target_freq, policy->min, policy-
> > > >max);
> > >       freq = cpufreq_driver->fast_switch(policy, target_freq);
> > > @@ -2213,11 +2207,7 @@ unsigned int
> > > cpufreq_driver_fast_switch(struct cpufreq_policy *policy,
> > >       arch_set_freq_scale(policy->related_cpus, freq,
> > >                           arch_scale_freq_ref(policy->cpu));
> > >       cpufreq_stats_record_transition(policy, freq);
> > > -
> > > -     if (trace_cpu_frequency_enabled()) {
> > > -             for_each_cpu(cpu, policy->cpus)
> > > -                     trace_cpu_frequency(freq, cpu);
> > > -     }
> > > +     trace_policy_frequency(freq, policy->cpu, policy->cpus);
> > > 
> > >       return freq;
> > >  }
> > > diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> > > b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> > > index ec4abe374573..9724b5d19d83 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> > > @@ -2297,7 +2297,8 @@ static int hwp_get_cpu_scaling(int cpu)
> > > 
> > >  static void intel_pstate_set_pstate(struct cpudata *cpu, int
> > > pstate)
> > >  {
> > > -     trace_cpu_frequency(pstate * cpu->pstate.scaling, cpu-
> > > >cpu);
> > > +     trace_policy_frequency(pstate * cpu->pstate.scaling, cpu-
> > > >cpu,
> > > +                            cpumask_of(cpu->cpu));
> > >       cpu->pstate.current_pstate = pstate;
> > >       /*
> > >        * Generally, there is no guarantee that this code will
> > > always run on
> > > @@ -2587,7 +2588,8 @@ static void
> > > intel_pstate_adjust_pstate(struct cpudata *cpu)
> > > 
> > >       target_pstate = get_target_pstate(cpu);
> > >       target_pstate = intel_pstate_prepare_request(cpu,
> > > target_pstate);
> > > -     trace_cpu_frequency(target_pstate * cpu->pstate.scaling,
> > > cpu->cpu);
> > > +     trace_policy_frequency(target_pstate * cpu->pstate.scaling,
> > > cpu->cpu,
> > > +                            cpumask_of(cpu->cpu));
> > >       intel_pstate_update_pstate(cpu, target_pstate);
> > > 
> > >       sample = &cpu->sample;
> > > diff --git a/include/trace/events/power.h
> > > b/include/trace/events/power.h
> > > index 370f8df2fdb4..317098ffdd5f 100644
> > > --- a/include/trace/events/power.h
> > > +++ b/include/trace/events/power.h
> > > @@ -182,11 +182,29 @@ TRACE_EVENT(pstate_sample,
> > >               { PM_EVENT_RECOVER, "recover" }, \
> > >               { PM_EVENT_POWEROFF, "poweroff" })
> > > 
> > > -DEFINE_EVENT(cpu, cpu_frequency,
> > > +TRACE_EVENT(policy_frequency,
> > > 
> > > -     TP_PROTO(unsigned int frequency, unsigned int cpu_id),
> > > +     TP_PROTO(unsigned int frequency, unsigned int cpu_id,
> > > +              const struct cpumask *policy_cpus),
> > > 
> > > -     TP_ARGS(frequency, cpu_id)
> > > +     TP_ARGS(frequency, cpu_id, policy_cpus),
> > > +
> > > +     TP_STRUCT__entry(
> > > +             __field(u32, state)
> > > +             __field(u32, cpu_id)
> > > +             __cpumask(cpumask)
> > > +     ),
> > > +
> > > +     TP_fast_assign(
> > > +             __entry->state = frequency;
> > > +             __entry->cpu_id = cpu_id;
> > > +             __assign_cpumask(cpumask, policy_cpus);
> > > +     ),
> > > +
> > > +     TP_printk("state=%lu cpu_id=%lu policy_cpus=%*pb",
> > > +               (unsigned long)__entry->state,
> > > +               (unsigned long)__entry->cpu_id,
> > > +               cpumask_pr_args((struct cpumask
> > > *)__get_dynamic_array(cpumask)))
> > >  );
> > > 
> > >  TRACE_EVENT(cpu_frequency_limits,
> > > diff --git a/kernel/trace/power-traces.c b/kernel/trace/power-
> > > traces.c
> > > index f2fe33573e54..a537e68a6878 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/trace/power-traces.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/trace/power-traces.c
> > > @@ -16,5 +16,5 @@
> > > 
> > >  EXPORT_TRACEPOINT_SYMBOL_GPL(suspend_resume);
> > >  EXPORT_TRACEPOINT_SYMBOL_GPL(cpu_idle);
> > > -EXPORT_TRACEPOINT_SYMBOL_GPL(cpu_frequency);
> > > +EXPORT_TRACEPOINT_SYMBOL_GPL(policy_frequency);
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/samples/bpf/cpustat_kern.c
> > > b/samples/bpf/cpustat_kern.c
> > > index 7ec7143e2757..f485de0f89b2 100644
> > > --- a/samples/bpf/cpustat_kern.c
> > > +++ b/samples/bpf/cpustat_kern.c
> > > @@ -75,9 +75,9 @@ struct {
> > >  } pstate_duration SEC(".maps");
> > > 
> > >  /*
> > > - * The trace events for cpu_idle and cpu_frequency are taken
> > > from:
> > > + * The trace events for cpu_idle and policy_frequency are taken
> > > from:
> > >   * /sys/kernel/tracing/events/power/cpu_idle/format
> > > - * /sys/kernel/tracing/events/power/cpu_frequency/format
> > > + * /sys/kernel/tracing/events/power/policy_frequency/format
> > >   *
> > >   * These two events have same format, so define one common
> > > structure.
> > >   */
> > > @@ -162,7 +162,7 @@ int bpf_prog1(struct cpu_args *ctx)
> > >        */
> > >       if (ctx->state != (u32)-1) {
> > > 
> > > -             /* record pstate after have first cpu_frequency
> > > event */
> > > +             /* record pstate after have first policy_frequency
> > > event */
> > >               if (!*pts)
> > >                       return 0;
> > > 
> > > @@ -208,7 +208,7 @@ int bpf_prog1(struct cpu_args *ctx)
> > >       return 0;
> > >  }
> > > 
> > > -SEC("tracepoint/power/cpu_frequency")
> > > +SEC("tracepoint/power/policy_frequency")
> > >  int bpf_prog2(struct cpu_args *ctx)
> > >  {
> > >       u64 *pts, *cstate, *pstate, cur_ts, delta;
> > > diff --git a/samples/bpf/cpustat_user.c
> > > b/samples/bpf/cpustat_user.c
> > > index 356f756cba0d..f7e81f702358 100644
> > > --- a/samples/bpf/cpustat_user.c
> > > +++ b/samples/bpf/cpustat_user.c
> > > @@ -143,12 +143,12 @@ static int
> > > cpu_stat_inject_cpu_idle_event(void)
> > > 
> > >  /*
> > >   * It's possible to have no any frequency change for long time
> > > and cannot
> > > - * get ftrace event 'trace_cpu_frequency' for long period, this
> > > introduces
> > > + * get ftrace event 'trace_policy_frequency' for long period,
> > > this introduces
> > >   * big deviation for pstate statistics.
> > >   *
> > >   * To solve this issue, below code forces to set
> > > 'scaling_max_freq' to 208MHz
> > > - * for triggering ftrace event 'trace_cpu_frequency' and then
> > > recovery back to
> > > - * the maximum frequency value 1.2GHz.
> > > + * for triggering ftrace event 'trace_policy_frequency' and then
> > > recovery back
> > > + * to the maximum frequency value 1.2GHz.
> > >   */
> > >  static int cpu_stat_inject_cpu_frequency_event(void)
> > >  {
> > > diff --git a/tools/perf/builtin-timechart.c b/tools/perf/builtin-
> > > timechart.c
> > > index 22050c640dfa..3ef1a2fd0493 100644
> > > --- a/tools/perf/builtin-timechart.c
> > > +++ b/tools/perf/builtin-timechart.c
> > > @@ -612,10 +612,10 @@ process_sample_cpu_idle(struct timechart
> > > *tchart __maybe_unused,
> > >  }
> > > 
> > >  static int
> > > -process_sample_cpu_frequency(struct timechart *tchart,
> > > -                          struct evsel *evsel,
> > > -                          struct perf_sample *sample,
> > > -                          const char *backtrace __maybe_unused)
> > > +process_sample_policy_frequency(struct timechart *tchart,
> > > +                             struct evsel *evsel,
> > > +                             struct perf_sample *sample,
> > > +                             const char *backtrace
> > > __maybe_unused)
> > >  {
> > >       u32 state  = evsel__intval(evsel, sample, "state");
> > >       u32 cpu_id = evsel__intval(evsel, sample, "cpu_id");
> > > @@ -1541,7 +1541,7 @@ static int __cmd_timechart(struct timechart
> > > *tchart, const char *output_name)
> > >  {
> > >       const struct evsel_str_handler power_tracepoints[] = {
> > >               { "power:cpu_idle",            
> > > process_sample_cpu_idle },
> > > -             { "power:cpu_frequency",       
> > > process_sample_cpu_frequency },
> > > +             { "power:policy_frequency",    
> > > process_sample_policy_frequency },
> > >               { "sched:sched_wakeup",        
> > > process_sample_sched_wakeup },
> > >               { "sched:sched_switch",        
> > > process_sample_sched_switch },
> > >  #ifdef SUPPORT_OLD_POWER_EVENTS
> > > @@ -1804,7 +1804,7 @@ static int timechart__record(struct
> > > timechart *tchart, int argc, const char **ar
> > >       unsigned int backtrace_args_no =
> > > ARRAY_SIZE(backtrace_args);
> > > 
> > >       const char * const power_args[] = {
> > > -             "-e", "power:cpu_frequency",
> > > +             "-e", "power:policy_frequency",
> > >               "-e", "power:cpu_idle",
> > >       };
> > >       unsigned int power_args_nr = ARRAY_SIZE(power_args);
> > 
> > perf timechart seem to do per-CPU reporting though?
> > So this is broken by not emitting an event per-CPU? At least with a
> > simple s/cpu_frequency/policy_frequency/
> > like here.
> > Similar for the bpf samples technically...
> 
> This kind of boils down to whether or not tracepoints can be regarded
> as ABI and to what extent.
> 

We have tools using tracing. We may need to check those tools.

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/tree/tools/power/x86/intel_pstate_tracer/intel_pstate_tracer.py?h=next-20251204
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/tree/tools/power/x86/amd_pstate_tracer/amd_pstate_trace.py?h=next-20251204

Thanks,
Srinivas


> In this particular case, I'm not sure I agree with the stated
> motivation.
> 
> First of all, on systems with one CPU per cpufreq policy (the vast
> majority of x86, including AMD, and the ARM systems using the CPPC
> driver AFAICS), the "issue" at hand is actually a non-issue and
> changing the name of the tracepoint alone would confuse things in
> user
> space IIUC.  Those need to work the way they do today.
> 
> On systems with multiple CPUs per cpufreq policy there is some extra
> overhead related to the cpu_frequency tracepoint, but the if someone
> is only interested in the "policy" frequency, they can filter out all
> CPUs belonging to the same policy except for one from the traces,
> don't they?

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