Message-Id: <41DF524A-7D16-447A-A0B8-777892D678A4@exactco.de>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2025 23:54:44 +0100
From: René Rebe <rene@...ctco.de>
To: Lyude Paul <lyude@...hat.com>
Cc: dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org,
 nouveau@...ts.freedesktop.org,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
 Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@...aro.org>,
 Danilo Krummrich <dakr@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] drm/nouveau: fix circular dep oops from vendored
 i2c encoder

Hi Lyude,

> On 4. Dec 2025, at 23:15, Lyude Paul <lyude@...hat.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey! Thank you for resending this. I was going to review it, but I'm having a
> bit of trouble being sure I understand how the problem you're hitting here is
> actually happening. More comments down below:

thanks for taking a look!

> On Tue, 2025-12-02 at 16:49 +0100, René Rebe wrote:
>> Since a73583107af9 ("drm/nouveau: vendor in drm_encoder_slave API")
>> nouveau appears to be broken for all dispnv04 GPUs (before NV50).
>> Depending on the kernel version, either having no display output and
>> hanging in kernel for a long time, or even oopsing in the cleanup
>> path like:
>> 
>> Hardware name: PowerMac11,2 PPC970MP 0x440101 PowerMac
>> ...
>> nouveau 0000:0a:00.0: drm: 0x14C5: Parsing digital output script table
>> BUG: Unable to handle kernel data access on read at 0x00041520
>> Faulting instruction address: 0xc0003d0001be0844
>> Oops: Kernel access of bad area, sig: 11 [#1]
>> BE PAGE_SIZE=4K MMU=Hash  SMP NR_CPUS=8 NUMA PowerMac
>> Modules linked in: windfarm_cpufreq_clamp windfarm_smu_sensors windfarm_smu_controls windfarm_pm112 snd_aoa_codec_onyx snd_aoa_fabric_layout snd_aoa windfarm_pid jo
>>  apple_mfi_fastcharge rndis_host cdc_ether usbnet mii snd_aoa_i2sbus snd_aoa_soundbus snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore rack_meter windfarm_smu_sat windfarm_max6690_s
>> m75_sensor windfarm_core gpu_sched drm_gpuvm drm_exec drm_client_lib drm_ttm_helper ttm drm_display_helper drm_kms_helper drm drm_panel_orientation_quirks syscopyar
>> _sys_fops i2c_algo_bit backlight uio_pdrv_genirq uio uninorth_agp agpgart zram dm_mod dax ipv6 nfsv4 dns_resolver nfs lockd grace sunrpc offb cfbfillrect cfbimgblt
>> ont input_leds sr_mod cdrom sd_mod uas ata_generic hid_apple hid_generic usbhid hid usb_storage pata_macio sata_svw libata firewire_ohci scsi_mod firewire_core ohci
>> ehci_pci ehci_hcd tg3 ohci_hcd libphy usbcore usb_common nls_base
>>  led_class
>> CPU: 0 UID: 0 PID: 245 Comm: (udev-worker) Not tainted 6.14.0-09584-g7d06015d936c #7 PREEMPTLAZY
>> Hardware name: PowerMac11,2 PPC970MP 0x440101 PowerMac
>> NIP:  c0003d0001be0844 LR: c0003d0001be0830 CTR: 0000000000000000
>> REGS: c0000000053f70e0 TRAP: 0300   Not tainted  (6.14.0-09584-g7d06015d936c)
>> MSR:  9000000000009032 <SF,HV,EE,ME,IR,DR,RI>  CR: 24222220  XER: 00000000
>> DAR: 0000000000041520 DSISR: 40000000 IRQMASK: 0 \x0aGPR00: c0003d0001be0830 c0000000053f7380 c0003d0000911900 c000000007bc6800 \x0aGPR04: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 c000000007bc6e70 0000000000000001 \x0aGPR08: 01f3040000000000 0000000000041520 0000000000000000 c0003d0000813958 \x0aGPR12: c000000000071a48 c000000000e28000 0000000000000020 0000000000000000 \x0aGPR16: 0000000000000000 0000000000f52630 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 \x0aGPR20: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000001 c0003d0000928528 \x0aGPR24: c0003d0000928598 0000000000000000 c000000007025480 c000000007025480 \x0aGPR28: c0000000010b4000 0000000000000000 c000000007bc1800 c000000007bc6800
>> NIP [c0003d0001be0844] nv_crtc_destroy+0x44/0xd4 [nouveau]
>> LR [c0003d0001be0830] nv_crtc_destroy+0x30/0xd4 [nouveau]
>> Call Trace:
>> [c0000000053f7380] [c0003d0001be0830] nv_crtc_destroy+0x30/0xd4 [nouveau] (unreliable)
>> [c0000000053f73c0] [c0003d00007f7bf4] drm_mode_config_cleanup+0x27c/0x30c [drm]
>> [c0000000053f7490] [c0003d0001bdea50] nouveau_display_create+0x1cc/0x550 [nouveau]
>> [c0000000053f7500] [c0003d0001bcc29c] nouveau_drm_device_init+0x1c8/0x844 [nouveau]
>> [c0000000053f75e0] [c0003d0001bcc9ec] nouveau_drm_probe+0xd4/0x1e0 [nouveau]
>> [c0000000053f7670] [c000000000557d24] local_pci_probe+0x50/0xa8
>> [c0000000053f76f0] [c000000000557fa8] pci_device_probe+0x22c/0x240
>> [c0000000053f7760] [c0000000005fff3c] really_probe+0x188/0x31c
>> [c0000000053f77e0] [c000000000600204] __driver_probe_device+0x134/0x13c
>> [c0000000053f7860] [c0000000006002c0] driver_probe_device+0x3c/0xb4
>> [c0000000053f78a0] [c000000000600534] __driver_attach+0x118/0x128
>> [c0000000053f78e0] [c0000000005fe038] bus_for_each_dev+0xa8/0xf4
>> [c0000000053f7950] [c0000000005ff460] driver_attach+0x2c/0x40
>> [c0000000053f7970] [c0000000005fea68] bus_add_driver+0x130/0x278
>> [c0000000053f7a00] [c00000000060117c] driver_register+0x9c/0x1a0
>> [c0000000053f7a80] [c00000000055623c] __pci_register_driver+0x5c/0x70
>> [c0000000053f7aa0] [c0003d0001c058a0] nouveau_drm_init+0x254/0x278 [nouveau]
>> [c0000000053f7b10] [c00000000000e9bc] do_one_initcall+0x84/0x268
>> [c0000000053f7bf0] [c0000000001a0ba0] do_init_module+0x70/0x2d8
>> [c0000000053f7c70] [c0000000001a42bc] init_module_from_file+0xb4/0x108
>> [c0000000053f7d50] [c0000000001a4504] sys_finit_module+0x1ac/0x478
>> [c0000000053f7e10] [c000000000023230] system_call_exception+0x1a4/0x20c
>> [c0000000053f7e50] [c00000000000c554] system_call_common+0xf4/0x258
>>  --- interrupt: c00 at 0xfd5f988
>> NIP:  000000000fd5f988 LR: 000000000ff9b148 CTR: 0000000000000000
>> REGS: c0000000053f7e80 TRAP: 0c00   Not tainted  (6.14.0-09584-g7d06015d936c)
>> MSR:  100000000000d032 <HV,EE,PR,ME,IR,DR,RI>  CR: 28222244  XER: 00000000
>> IRQMASK: 0 \x0aGPR00: 0000000000000161 00000000ffcdc2d0 00000000405db160 0000000000000020 \x0aGPR04: 000000000ffa2c9c 0000000000000000 000000000000001f 0000000000000045 \x0aGPR08: 0000000011a13770 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 \x0aGPR12: 0000000000000000 0000000010249d8c 0000000000000020 0000000000000000 \x0aGPR16: 0000000000000000 0000000000f52630 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 \x0aGPR20: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000011a11a70 \x0aGPR24: 0000000011a13580 0000000011a11950 0000000011a11a70 0000000000020000 \x0aGPR28: 000000000ffa2c9c 0000000000000000 000000000ffafc40 0000000011a11a70
>> NIP [000000000fd5f988] 0xfd5f988
>> LR [000000000ff9b148] 0xff9b148
>>  --- interrupt: c00
>> Code: f821ffc1 418200ac e93f0000 e9290038 e9291468 eba90000 48026c0d e8410018 e93f06aa 3d290001 392982a4 79291f24 <7fdd482a> 2c3e0000 41820030 7fc3f378
>>  ---[ end trace 0000000000000000 ]---
>> 
>> This is caused by the i2c encoder modules vendored into nouveau/ now
>> depending on the equally vendored nouveau_i2c_encoder_destroy
>> function. Trying to auto-load this modules hangs on nouveau
>> initialization until timeout, and nouveau continues without i2c video
>> encoders.
> 
> I think this ^ might be my main source of confusion, because I see you
> mentioning a timeout and a hang - but this backtrace only shows me that
> there's an invalid memory access so I'm assuming this isn't actually where
> it's hanging.

AFAIR this oops is in the cleanup path w/o codec. The error path might
have seen a change since January.

As far as I have seen the main bug happens before, when nouveau triggers the
codec load, but because the codecs now depend on the nouveau symbol they
are not initalized while nouveu Is still probing and then times out without the codec.

> So I guess my two questions are:
> * Does this fix work because inlining the function somehow avoids the kernel
>   trying to autoload a kernel module? Also, which kernel module in particular
>   are we avoiding loading here?

Because the codecs don’t depend on the nouveau module they can be loaded
and used durning nouveau probing.

> * Would it be possible for you to get a backtrace of precisely where it's
>   hanging? If you don't know how to do this, I've included instructions down
>   below:

If necessary, I just carried it back to storag and this change looked trivial enough
for me.

	René

> The process for getting a backtrace when it's hanging is pretty simple:
> * Have a second machine you can use to ssh into the first one
> * On the first machine, make sure you've enabled sysrq (you can use -w to
>   save the config to disc)
>   sudo sysctl kernel.sysrq=1
> * Make the first machine hang
> * Log into the first machine with the second, and have the kernel spit out
>   backtraces for any blocked processes before it finishes hanging:
>   echo w > /proc/sysrq-trigger
> * Collect the resulting dmesg and report back
> 
>> Fix by avoiding nouveau dependency by __always_inlining that helper
>> functions into those i2c video encoder modules.
>> 
>> Fixes: a73583107af9 ("drm/nouveau: vendor in drm_encoder_slave API")
>> Signed-off-by: René Rebe <rene@...ctco.de>
>> ---
>> Tested on NV43 [GeForce 6600], PPC64 PowerMac11,2 runing T2/Linux 
>> ---
>>  .../nouveau/dispnv04/nouveau_i2c_encoder.c    | 20 -------------------
>>  .../include/dispnv04/i2c/encoder_i2c.h        | 19 +++++++++++++++++-
>>  2 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
>> 
>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/dispnv04/nouveau_i2c_encoder.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/dispnv04/nouveau_i2c_encoder.c
>> index e2bf99c43336..a60209097a20 100644
>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/dispnv04/nouveau_i2c_encoder.c
>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/dispnv04/nouveau_i2c_encoder.c
>> @@ -94,26 +94,6 @@ int nouveau_i2c_encoder_init(struct drm_device *dev,
>>   return err;
>>  }
>>  
>> -/**
>> - * nouveau_i2c_encoder_destroy - Unregister the I2C device backing an encoder
>> - * @drm_encoder: Encoder to be unregistered.
>> - *
>> - * This should be called from the @destroy method of an I2C slave
>> - * encoder driver once I2C access is no longer needed.
>> - */
>> -void nouveau_i2c_encoder_destroy(struct drm_encoder *drm_encoder)
>> -{
>> - struct nouveau_i2c_encoder *encoder = to_encoder_i2c(drm_encoder);
>> - struct i2c_client *client = nouveau_i2c_encoder_get_client(drm_encoder);
>> - struct module *module = client->dev.driver->owner;
>> -
>> - i2c_unregister_device(client);
>> - encoder->i2c_client = NULL;
>> -
>> - module_put(module);
>> -}
>> -EXPORT_SYMBOL(nouveau_i2c_encoder_destroy);
>> -
>>  /*
>>   * Wrapper fxns which can be plugged in to drm_encoder_helper_funcs:
>>   */
>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/include/dispnv04/i2c/encoder_i2c.h b/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/include/dispnv04/i2c/encoder_i2c.h
>> index 31334aa90781..869820701a56 100644
>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/include/dispnv04/i2c/encoder_i2c.h
>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/include/dispnv04/i2c/encoder_i2c.h
>> @@ -202,7 +202,24 @@ static inline struct i2c_client *nouveau_i2c_encoder_get_client(struct drm_encod
>>   return to_encoder_i2c(encoder)->i2c_client;
>>  }
>>  
>> -void nouveau_i2c_encoder_destroy(struct drm_encoder *encoder);
>> +/**
>> + * nouveau_i2c_encoder_destroy - Unregister the I2C device backing an encoder
>> + * @drm_encoder:        Encoder to be unregistered.
>> + *
>> + * This should be called from the @destroy method of an I2C slave
>> + * encoder driver once I2C access is no longer needed.
>> + */
>> +static __always_inline void nouveau_i2c_encoder_destroy(struct drm_encoder *drm_encoder)
>> +{
>> + struct nouveau_i2c_encoder *encoder = to_encoder_i2c(drm_encoder);
>> + struct i2c_client *client = nouveau_i2c_encoder_get_client(drm_encoder);
>> + struct module *module = client->dev.driver->owner;
>> +
>> + i2c_unregister_device(client);
>> + encoder->i2c_client = NULL;
>> +
>> + module_put(module);
>> +}
>>  
>>  /*
>>   * Wrapper fxns which can be plugged in to drm_encoder_helper_funcs:
>> -- 
>> 2.46.0
>> 
>> -- 
>> René Rebe, ExactCODE GmbH, Berlin, Germany
>> https://exactco.de • https://t2linux.com • https://patreon.com/renerebe
> 
> -- 
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