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Message-ID: <20251204093209.706f30a6@pumpkin>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2025 09:32:09 +0000
From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@...il.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: Are setuid shell scripts safe? (Implied by
 security_bprm_creds_for_exec)

On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 05:49:15 +0000
Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 03, 2025 at 02:16:29PM +0100, Bernd Edlinger wrote:
> 
> > Hmm, yes, that looks like an issue.
> > 
> > I would have expected the security engine to look at bprm->filenanme
> > especially in the case, when bprm->interp != bprm->filename,
> > and check that it is not a sym-link with write-access for the
> > current user and of course also that the bprm->file is not a regular file
> > which is writable by the current user, if that is the case I would have expected
> > the secuity engine to enforce non-new-privs on a SUID executable somehow.  
> 
> Check that _what_ is not a symlink?  And while we are at it, what do write
> permissions to any symlinks have to do with anything whatsoever?
> 

You'd need to check for write permissions to all the directories in the
full path of the symlink and in all the directories traversed by the symlink.
(and that may not be enough....)

Passing the shell (or whatever) /dev/fd/n doesn't seem (to me) any different
from what happens when the elf interpreter runs a suid program.
You might want to check for non-owner write permissions to the /dev/fd/n entry,
but that is true for any suid executable, not just scripts.

FWIW the SYSV shells normally set the effective uid back the real uid.
So making a script suid didn't work unless the script started "#!/bin/sh -p".
Whether that improved security (rather than being annoying) is another matter.

	David

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