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Message-ID: <3b785a80-73e6-4def-ae4b-39ccb30dd1b7@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 16:19:58 +0900
From: Nitin <nitjoshi@...il.com>
To: Mark Pearson <mpearson-lenovo@...ebb.ca>, Hans de Goede
<hansg@...nel.org>, Ilpo Järvinen
<ilpo.jarvinen@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: "platform-driver-x86@...r.kernel.org"
<platform-driver-x86@...r.kernel.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Nitin Joshi1 <njoshi1@...ovo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] platform/x86: thinkpad_acpi: Add support to detect
hardware damage detection capability.
On 12/3/25 22:16, Mark Pearson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2025, at 5:18 AM, Nitin wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> Thank you for reviewing this patch.
>>
>> On 12/3/25 16:52, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Interesting new feature. A few small remarks on the proposed
>>> sysfs API below.
>>>
>>> On 3-Dec-25 4:40 AM, Nitin Joshi wrote:
>>>> Thinkpads are adding the ability to detect and report hardware damage
>>>> status. Add new sysfs interface to identify the impacted component
>>>> with status.
>>>> Initial support is available for the USB-C replaceable connector.
>>>>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Mark Pearson <mpearson-lenovo@...ebb.ca>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Nitin Joshi<nitjoshi@...il.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> .../admin-guide/laptops/thinkpad-acpi.rst | 26 +++
>>>> drivers/platform/x86/lenovo/thinkpad_acpi.c | 179 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 2 files changed, 205 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/laptops/thinkpad-acpi.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/laptops/thinkpad-acpi.rst
>>>> index 4ab0fef7d440..4a3220529489 100644
>>>> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/laptops/thinkpad-acpi.rst
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/laptops/thinkpad-acpi.rst
>>>> @@ -54,6 +54,7 @@ detailed description):
>>>> - Setting keyboard language
>>>> - WWAN Antenna type
>>>> - Auxmac
>>>> + - Hardware damage detection capability
>>>>
>>>> A compatibility table by model and feature is maintained on the web
>>>> site, http://ibm-acpi.sf.net/. I appreciate any success or failure
>>>> @@ -1576,6 +1577,31 @@ percentage level, above which charging will stop.
>>>> The exact semantics of the attributes may be found in
>>>> Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-class-power.
>>>>
>>>> +Hardware damage detection capability
>>>> +-----------------
>>>> +
>>>> +sysfs attributes: hwdd_status
>>>> +
>>>> +Thinkpads are adding the ability to detect and report hardware damage.
>>>> +Add new sysfs interface to identify the impacted component.
>>>> +Initial support is available for the USB-C replaceable connector.
>>>> +
>>>> +The available commands are::
>>>> +
>>>> + cat /sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/hwdd_status
>>>> +
>>>> +This value displays device type and location of device with damage status.
>>>> +For example:
>>>> +if no damage is detected:
>>>> + No damage detected
>>>> +if damage detected:
>>>> + Damage detected:
>>>> + Device: TYPE-C
>>>> + Location: Base, Right side, Center port
>>>> +
>>>> +The property is read-only. If feature is not supported then sysfs
>>>> +class is not created.
>>> Nitpick: s/class/attribute/ classes are standardized sysfs
>>> interfaces living under /sys/class/ which this is not.
>> Ack, I will modify it.
>>> Besides the nitpick I'm wondering if we do not want to make
>>> this a little bit more friendly / easy for software to parse ?
>>>
>>> ATM this seems focused on a human directly reading
>>> the output but what if we want some sort of automation,
>>> like e.g. a Linux version of the Lenovo Vantage sw parsing
>>> this in the future?
>>>
>>> Note I've no specific suggestions for how to make this
>>> easier to parse, this is just an observation.
>> Thank you for pointing this out. I am open for suggestions and will
>> re-check regarding its use case in lenovo vantage in future.
>>
> I'd not considered it from this perspective.
>
> One concern is that it could be multiple devices in multiple location - so breaking it up into too many pieces becomes difficult.
>
> What if we did:
> hwdd_status - 1 or 0 if damage detected
> hwdd_detail - list of damaged items with their location (could be multiple). e.g.
> TYPE-C: Base, Right side, Center port
> If hwdd_status is 0 then hwdd_detail would display "No damage detected"
Thank you, Mark ! I am OK with this suggestion.
Hans / Ilpo - Any comment on this ? Thanks
> Mark
Thank you !
Nitin Joshi
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