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Message-ID: <CAGXv+5E1qc7UDUPBz9htA5RC18cPDGeRt1wW5exkoAkUuFxpSA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 18:16:48 +0800
From: Chen-Yu Tsai <wenst@...omium.org>
To: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@...nel.org>
Cc: Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@...il.com>, 
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno <angelogioacchino.delregno@...labora.com>, 
	Ryder Lee <ryder.lee@...iatek.com>, Jianjun Wang <jianjun.wang@...iatek.com>, 
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@...nel.org>, Krzysztof Wilczyński <kwilczynski@...nel.org>, 
	Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>, 
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@...ev.pl>, linux-pci@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-mediatek@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: mediatek-gen3: Ignore link up timeout

On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 2:11 PM Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2025 at 02:28:14PM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> > As mentioned in commit 886a9c134755 ("PCI: dwc: Move link handling into
> > common code") come up later" in the code, it is possible for link up to
> > occur later:
> >
> >   Let's standardize this to succeed as there are usecases where devices
> >   (and the link) appear later even without hotplug. For example, a
> >   reconfigured FPGA device.
> >
> > Another case for this is the new PCIe power control stuff. The power
> > control mechanism only gets triggered in the PCI core after the driver
> > calls into pci_host_probe(). The power control framework then triggers
> > a bus rescan. In most driver implementations, this sequence happens
> > after link training. If the driver errors out when link training times
> > out, it will never get to the point where the device gets turned on.
> >
> > Ignore the link up timeout, and lower the error message down to a
> > warning.
> >
> > This makes PCIe devices that have not-always-on power rails work.
> > However there may be some reversal of PCIe power sequencing, since now
> > the PERST# and clocks are enabled in the driver, while the power is
> > applied afterwards.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Chen-Yu Tsai <wenst@...omium.org>
> > ---
> > The change works to get my PCIe WiFi device working, but I wonder if
> > the driver should expose more fine grained controls for the link clock
> > and PERST# (when it is owned by the controller and not just a GPIO) to
> > the power control framework. This applies not just to this driver.
> >
> > The PCI standard says that PERST# should hold the device in reset until
> > the power rails are valid or stable, i.e. at their designated voltages.
>
> I believe this patch is no longer necessary once you adopt to the new pwrctrl
> APIs proposed here: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20251216-pci-pwrctrl-rework-v2-0-745a563b9be6@oss.qualcomm.com/

That's right. I already have changes locally based on v1.

> I plan to get this series merged asap for v6.20 so that we can apply mtk changes
> on top once you send them.

Great news!


Thanks
ChenYu

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