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Message-ID: <20251219173227.GJ31492@ziepe.ca>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 13:32:27 -0400
From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...labora.com>
Cc: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@...gle.com>, Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@...nel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
	Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@...labora.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>, Gary Guo <gary@...yguo.net>,
	Björn Roy Baron <bjorn3_gh@...tonmail.com>,
	Benno Lossin <lossin@...nel.org>,
	Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@...nel.org>,
	Trevor Gross <tmgross@...ch.edu>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@...nel.org>, Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>,
	Asahi Lina <lina+kernel@...hilina.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@...r.kernel.org,
	iommu@...ts.linux.dev, linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] io: add io_pgtable abstraction

On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 04:27:34PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 11:14:34 -0400
> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 04:11:53PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > 
> > > There's actually a confusion between TLB invalidation and L1/L2 cache
> > > flush/invalidation. The things we can decide to flush/invalidate around
> > > map/unmap ops are L1/L2 caches. The TLB invalidate, we don't have
> > > direct control on: it happens as part of the LOCK+UNLOCK sequence, and
> > > no matter what you execute (map or unmap), you have to surround it with
> > > a LOCK/UNLOCK to provide support for atomic updates (GPU is blocked if
> > > anything accesses the locked range while an update is on-going).  
> > 
> > That makes more sense, so these GPU drivers just flush the entire TLB
> > every time they change it - built into the UNLOCK operation?
> 
> I don't have implementation details, so I can't really tell what
> happens internally. What's sure is that LOCK takes a range, so they
> might be optimizing the TLB flush to only evict entries covered by this
> range, dunno.

So, I'd probably just simplify that comment:

 For the initial users of these rust bindings the GPU FW is managing the
 IOTLB and performs all required invalidations using a range. There is no
 need for it get ARM style invalidation instructions from the page
 table code.

Jason

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