linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/4] mm: khugepaged: remove mm when all memory has been collapsed

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Message-ID: <qjrahvphdjzbptb4k7lzxbp2encmejvxumuzqiu6au3n3zwr2z@a2gxh37ba3ix>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 13:24:14 +0800
From: Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@...il.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@...nel.org>
Cc: akpm@...ux-foundation.org, lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com, ziy@...dia.com, 
	baohua@...nel.org, lance.yang@...ux.dev, linux-mm@...ck.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@...inos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] mm: khugepaged: remove mm when all memory has been
 collapsed

On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 10:29:18AM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 12/15/25 10:04, Vernon Yang wrote:
> > The following data is traced by bpftrace on a desktop system. After
> > the system has been left idle for 10 minutes upon booting, a lot of
> > SCAN_PMD_MAPPED or SCAN_PMD_NONE are observed during a full scan by
> > khugepaged.
> >
> > @scan_pmd_status[1]: 1           ## SCAN_SUCCEED
> > @scan_pmd_status[4]: 158         ## SCAN_PMD_MAPPED
> > @scan_pmd_status[3]: 174         ## SCAN_PMD_NONE
> > total progress size: 701 MB
> > Total time         : 440 seconds ## include khugepaged_scan_sleep_millisecs
> >
> > The khugepaged_scan list save all task that support collapse into hugepage,
> > as long as the take is not destroyed, khugepaged will not remove it from
> > the khugepaged_scan list. This exist a phenomenon where task has already
> > collapsed all memory regions into hugepage, but khugepaged continues to
> > scan it, which wastes CPU time and invalid, and due to
> > khugepaged_scan_sleep_millisecs (default 10s) causes a long wait for
> > scanning a large number of invalid task, so scanning really valid task
> > is later.
> >
> > After applying this patch, when all memory is either SCAN_PMD_MAPPED or
> > SCAN_PMD_NONE, the mm is automatically removed from khugepaged's scan
> > list. If the page fault or MADV_HUGEPAGE again, it is added back to
> > khugepaged.
>
> I don't like that, as it assumes that memory within such a process would be
> rather static, which is easily not the case (e.g., allocators just doing
> MADV_DONTNEED to free memory).
>
> If most stuff is collapsed to PMDs already, can't we just skip over these
> regions a bit faster?

/* default scan 8*HPAGE_PMD_NR ptes (or vmas) every 10 second */
static unsigned int khugepaged_pages_to_scan __read_mostly;

The observed phenomenon is that when scanning these regions, the loop is
broken upon reaching the number of khugepaged_pages_to_scan, thereforce
the khugepaged enters 10s sleep. So if we just skip over these regions,
will break the semantics of khugepaged_pages_to_scan.

I also think this approach is great because it is simple sufficiently.
If we can skip over these regions directly, that's excellent.

> --
> Cheers
>
> David

--
Thanks,
Vernon