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Message-ID: <20251228182252.1550173-1-professorjonny98@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 07:22:43 +1300
From: Jonathan Brophy <professorjonny98@...il.com>
To: lee Jones <lee@...nel.org>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@...nel.org>,
Andriy Shevencho <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>,
Jonathan Brophy <professor_jonny@...mail.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@...nel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@...nel.org>,
Radoslav Tsvetkov <rtsvetkov@...dotech.eu>
Cc: devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-leds@...r.kernel.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 0/2] leds: Add optional instance identifier for deterministic naming
From: Jonathan Brophy <professor_jonny@...mail.com>
This patch series introduces an optional "led-instance" device tree property
to address non-deterministic LED naming when multiple LEDs share the same
function and color.
Currently, the LED core appends numerical suffixes (_1, _2, etc.) based on
registration order when duplicate function:color combinations exist. This
creates several problems:
1. **Non-deterministic naming**: Registration order determines suffix values,
which can change across boots due to probe ordering, async initialization,
or module load order.
2. **Non-semantic identifiers**: Names like "lan:green_23" provide no
indication of which physical LED or subsystem they represent.
3. **Breaks userspace automation**: Network management tools, LED control
daemons, and hardware monitoring cannot reliably identify LEDs.
4. **Ambiguous numbering**: "lan:green_23" could be mistaken for LAN port 23
when it may actually be the 23rd registered LED of any port.
5. **Namespace pollution**: The alternative of adding vendor-specific function
names (LED_FUNCTION_LAN_PORT0, LED_FUNCTION_LAN_PORT1...) pollutes the
function namespace. The instance identifier keeps standard functions clean
while allowing contextual differentiation.
6. **Breaks naming convention**: The _1, _2 suffix was intended only as a
collision avoidance workaround, but has become the de facto standard for
hardware with multiple identical LEDs.
**Example: 48-port network switch**
Current behavior (non-deterministic):
/sys/class/leds/lan:green ← Port 0? Unknown
/sys/class/leds/lan:green_1 ← Could be any port
/sys/class/leds/lan:green_2 ← Could be any port
...
/sys/class/leds/lan:green_47 ← Could be port 1 due to probe order
Proposed behavior (deterministic):
/sys/class/leds/lan:green:port0 ← Always port 0
/sys/class/leds/lan:green:port1 ← Always port 1
/sys/class/leds/lan:green:port2 ← Always port 2
...
/sys/class/leds/lan:green:port47 ← Always port 47
**Example: Multi-domain power indicators**
Current behavior (non-deterministic):
/sys/class/leds/power:red ← Which power source?
/sys/class/leds/power:red_1 ← Which power source?
/sys/class/leds/power:red_2 ← Which power source?
Proposed behavior (deterministic):
/sys/class/leds/power:red:mains ← Mains power indicator
/sys/class/leds/power:red:battery ← Battery power indicator
/sys/class/leds/power:red:usb ← USB power indicator
**Design principles:**
- Backward compatible: Instance identifier is optional
- Extends existing convention: function:color becomes function:color:instance
- Follows kernel precedent: Similar to eth0/eth1, gpio0/gpio1 naming patterns
- Ignored with deprecated "label" property: Avoids conflicts with legacy code
**Alternative solutions considered:**
1. function-enumerator: Only supports numbers (0, 1, 2), producing names like
"lan:green-0" which are still non-semantic. The 48-port switch needs "port0"
to match physical port labels.
2. Deprecated "label" property: Being actively removed from LED bindings. New
code should not rely on deprecated APIs.
3. Different function names: LED_FUNCTION_LAN_PORT0, LED_FUNCTION_LAN_PORT1...
This pollutes the function namespace with hardware-specific combinations.
This RFC seeks feedback on:
- Property naming: "led-instance" vs "led-subsystem" vs "led-context"
- Implementation approach
- Additional use cases to document
Jonathan Brophy (2):
leds: core: Add support for led-instance property
dt-bindings: leds: common: Add led-instance property
.../devicetree/bindings/leds/common.yaml | 93 +++++++++++++++++++
drivers/leds/led-core.c | 43 +++++++--
2 files changed, 126 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
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2.43.0
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