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Message-ID: <aVkmQ4EGIQgAddZQ@yury>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 09:22:59 -0500
From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@...il.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@...dia.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <chleroy@...nel.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@...ux.intel.com>,
	Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@...ux.intel.com>,
	David Laight <david.laight@...box.com>,
	Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@...e.com>,
	Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@...nel.org>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@...el.com>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tursulin@...ulin.net>,
	Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@...nel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@...nel.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	intel-gfx@...ts.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org,
	linux-modules@...r.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 7/7] kernel.h: drop trace_printk.h

On Sat, Jan 03, 2026 at 02:57:58PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 02, 2026 at 07:50:59PM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 11:17:48AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > I use trace_printk() all the time for kernel, particularly RCU development.
> > One of the key usecases I have is dumping traces on panic (with panic on warn
> > and stop tracing on warn enabled). This is extremely useful since I can add
> > custom tracing and dump traces when rare conditions occur. I fixed several
> > bugs with this technique.
> > 
> > I also recommend keeping it convenient to use.
> 
> Okay, you know C, please share your opinion what header is the best to hold the
> trace_printk.h to be included.

What if we include it on Makefile level, similarly to how W=1 works?

        make D=1 // trace_printk() is available
        make D=0 // trace_printk() is not available
        make     // trace_printk() is not available

Where D stands for debugging.

D=1 may be a default setting if you prefer, but the most important is
that every compilation unit will have an access to debugging without
polluting core headers.

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