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Message-ID: <gg5zdpzrk47tljbnaudcy2gnsodyhmmar23qb57b67bhx6ntje@eq2fcrl2dk4z>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 10:42:51 +0900
From: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@...omium.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@...ux.dev>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@...omium.org>, 
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Nhat Pham <nphamcs@...il.com>, Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>, 
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>, Brian Geffon <bgeffon@...gle.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] zsmalloc: chain-length configuration should
 consider other metrics

On (26/01/02 18:29), Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 01, 2026 at 10:38:14AM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
[..]
> 
> I worry that the heuristics are too hand-wavy

I don't disagree.  Am not super excited about the heuristics either.

> and I wonder if the memcpy savings actually show up as perf improvements
> in any real life workload. Do we have data about this?

I don't have real life 16K PAGE_SIZE devices.  However, on 16K PAGE_SIZE
systems we have "normal" size-classes up to a very large size, and normal
class means chaining of 0-order physical pages, and chaining means spanning.
So on 16K memcpy overhead is expected to be somewhat noticeable.

> I also vaguely recall discussions about other ways to avoid the memcpy
> using scatterlists, so I am wondering if this is the right metric to
> optimize.

As far as I understand SG-list based approach is that it will require
implementing split-data handling on the compression algorithms side,
which is not trivial (especially if the only reason to do that is
zsmalloc).

Alternatively, we maybe can try to vmap spanning objects:

---
 mm/zsmalloc.c | 24 +++++++++++++-----------
 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)

diff --git a/mm/zsmalloc.c b/mm/zsmalloc.c
index 6fc216ab8190..4a68c27cb5d4 100644
--- a/mm/zsmalloc.c
+++ b/mm/zsmalloc.c
@@ -38,6 +38,7 @@
 #include <linux/zsmalloc.h>
 #include <linux/fs.h>
 #include <linux/workqueue.h>
+#include <linux/vmalloc.h>
 #include "zpdesc.h"
 
 #define ZSPAGE_MAGIC	0x58
@@ -1097,19 +1098,15 @@ void *zs_obj_read_begin(struct zs_pool *pool, unsigned long handle,
 		addr = kmap_local_zpdesc(zpdesc);
 		addr += off;
 	} else {
-		size_t sizes[2];
+		struct page *pages[2];
 
 		/* this object spans two pages */
-		sizes[0] = PAGE_SIZE - off;
-		sizes[1] = class->size - sizes[0];
-		addr = local_copy;
-
-		memcpy_from_page(addr, zpdesc_page(zpdesc),
-				 off, sizes[0]);
-		zpdesc = get_next_zpdesc(zpdesc);
-		memcpy_from_page(addr + sizes[0],
-				 zpdesc_page(zpdesc),
-				 0, sizes[1]);
+		pages[0] = zpdesc_page(zpdesc);
+		pages[1] = zpdesc_page(get_next_zpdesc(zpdesc));
+		addr = vm_map_ram(pages, 2, NUMA_NO_NODE);
+		if (!addr)
+			return NULL;
+		addr += off;
 	}
 
 	if (!ZsHugePage(zspage))
@@ -1139,6 +1136,11 @@ void zs_obj_read_end(struct zs_pool *pool, unsigned long handle,
 			off += ZS_HANDLE_SIZE;
 		handle_mem -= off;
 		kunmap_local(handle_mem);
+	} else {
+		if (!ZsHugePage(zspage))
+			off += ZS_HANDLE_SIZE;
+		handle_mem -= off;
+		vm_unmap_ram(handle_mem, 2);
 	}
 
 	zspage_read_unlock(zspage);
-- 
2.52.0.351.gbe84eed79e-goog


> What are the main pain points for PAGE_SIZE > 4K configs? Is it the
> compression/decompression time? In my experience this is usually not the
> bottleneck, I would imagine the real problem would be the internal
> fragmentation.

Right, internal fragmentation can be the main problem.

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