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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 17:40:40 +0000
From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
To: Sasha Levin <sashal@...nel.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>, Dave Hansen <dave@...1.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] [v3] Documentation: Provide guidelines for
tool-generated content
On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 11:42:49AM -0500, Sasha Levin wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 11:56:19AM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > diff --git a/Documentation/process/generated-content.rst b/Documentation/process/generated-content.rst
> > index 917d6e93c66d..1423ed9d971d 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/process/generated-content.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/process/generated-content.rst
> > @@ -95,3 +95,11 @@ choose how they handle the contribution. For example, they might:
> > - Ask the submitter to explain in more detail about the contribution
> > so that the maintainer can feel comfortable that the submitter fully
> > understands how the code works.
> > +
> > +If tools permit you to generate series entirely automatically, expect
> > +additional scrutiny.
> > +
> > +As with the output of any tooling, maintainers will not tolerate 'slop' -
>
> Could you define what "slop" in the context of a kernel patch means? Clearly
> it's not just innocent error, but it's not clear to me what line needs to be
> crossed for a mistake to turn into "slop".
I accepted James's suggested alternative in this thread.
>
> > +you are expected to understand and to be able to defend everything you
> > +submit. If you are unable to do so, maintainers may choose to reject your
> > +series outright.
>
> We already have something like this in Documentation/process/howto.rst:
>
> "Before making any actual modifications to the Linux kernel code, it is
> imperative to understand how the code in question works."
>
> I suppose that we can restate the same here, but whats the purpose? to put it
> in front of whatever media outlets might be looking?
I feel I've already addressed this in the thread.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Sasha
Thanks, Lorenzo
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