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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2026 20:08:34 +0800
From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>
To: Samir M <samir@...ux.ibm.com>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@...dia.com>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@...nel.org>,
Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@...il.com>, rcu@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@...il.com>,
Zqiang <qiang.zhang@...ux.dev>, vishalc@...ux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] rcu: Reduce synchronize_rcu() latency by reporting GP
kthread's CPU QS early
On Sun, Jan 11, 2026 at 03:42:36PM +0530, Samir M wrote:
>
> On 30/12/25 6:11 am, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > The RCU grace period mechanism uses a two-phase FQS (Force Quiescent
> > State) design where the first FQS saves dyntick-idle snapshots and
> > the second FQS compares them. This results in long and unnecessary latency
> > for synchronize_rcu() on idle systems (two FQS waits of ~3ms each with
> > 1000HZ) whenever one FQS wait sufficed.
> >
> > Some investigations showed that the GP kthread's CPU is the holdout CPU
> > a lot of times after the first FQS as - it cannot be detected as "idle"
> > because it's actively running the FQS scan in the GP kthread.
> >
> > Therefore, at the end of rcu_gp_init(), immediately report a quiescent
> > state for the GP kthread's CPU using rcu_qs() + rcu_report_qs_rdp(). The
> > GP kthread cannot be in an RCU read-side critical section while running
> > GP initialization, so this is safe and results in significant latency
> > improvements.
> >
> > I benchmarked 100 synchronize_rcu() calls with 32 CPUs, 10 runs each
> > showing significant latency improvements (default settings for fqs jiffies):
> >
> > Baseline (without fix):
> > | Run | Mean | Min | Max |
> > |-----|-----------|----------|-----------|
> > | 1 | 10.088 ms | 9.989 ms | 18.848 ms |
> > | 2 | 10.064 ms | 9.982 ms | 16.470 ms |
> > | 3 | 10.051 ms | 9.988 ms | 15.113 ms |
> > | 4 | 10.125 ms | 9.929 ms | 22.411 ms |
> > | 5 | 8.695 ms | 5.996 ms | 15.471 ms |
> > | 6 | 10.157 ms | 9.977 ms | 25.723 ms |
> > | 7 | 10.102 ms | 9.990 ms | 20.224 ms |
> > | 8 | 8.050 ms | 5.985 ms | 10.007 ms |
> > | 9 | 10.059 ms | 9.978 ms | 15.934 ms |
> > | 10 | 10.077 ms | 9.984 ms | 17.703 ms |
> >
> > With fix:
> > | Run | Mean | Min | Max |
> > |-----|----------|----------|-----------|
> > | 1 | 6.027 ms | 5.915 ms | 8.589 ms |
> > | 2 | 6.032 ms | 5.984 ms | 9.241 ms |
> > | 3 | 6.010 ms | 5.986 ms | 7.004 ms |
> > | 4 | 6.076 ms | 5.993 ms | 10.001 ms |
> > | 5 | 6.084 ms | 5.893 ms | 10.250 ms |
> > | 6 | 6.034 ms | 5.908 ms | 9.456 ms |
> > | 7 | 6.051 ms | 5.993 ms | 10.000 ms |
> > | 8 | 6.057 ms | 5.941 ms | 10.001 ms |
> > | 9 | 6.016 ms | 5.927 ms | 7.540 ms |
> > | 10 | 6.036 ms | 5.993 ms | 9.579 ms |
> >
> > Summary:
> > - Mean latency: 9.75 ms -> 6.04 ms (38% improvement)
> > - Max latency: 25.72 ms -> 10.25 ms (60% improvement)
> >
> > Additional bridge setup/teardown testing by Uladzislau Rezki on x86_64
> > with 64 CPUs (100 iterations of bridge add/configure/delete):
> >
> > real time
> > 1 - default: 24.221s
> > 2 - this patch: 20.754s (14% faster)
> > 3 - this patch + wake_from_gp: 15.895s (34% faster)
> > 4 - wake_from_gp only: 18.947s (22% faster)
> >
> > Per-synchronize_rcu() latency (in usec):
> > 1 2 3 4
> > median: 37249.5 31540.5 15765 22480
> > min: 7881 7918 9803 7857
> > max: 63651 55639 31861 32040
> >
> > This patch combined with rcu_normal_wake_from_gp reduces bridge
> > setup/teardown time from 24 seconds to 16 seconds.
> >
> > Tested rcutorture TREE and SRCU configurations.
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@...nel.org>
> > Tested-by: Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) <urezki@...il.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@...dia.com>
> > ---
> > kernel/rcu/tree.c | 12 ++++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree.c b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > index 78c045a5ef03..b7c818cabe44 100644
> > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > @@ -160,6 +160,7 @@ static void rcu_report_qs_rnp(unsigned long mask, struct rcu_node *rnp,
> > unsigned long gps, unsigned long flags);
> > static void invoke_rcu_core(void);
> > static void rcu_report_exp_rdp(struct rcu_data *rdp);
> > +static void rcu_report_qs_rdp(struct rcu_data *rdp);
> > static void check_cb_ovld_locked(struct rcu_data *rdp, struct rcu_node *rnp);
> > static bool rcu_rdp_is_offloaded(struct rcu_data *rdp);
> > static bool rcu_rdp_cpu_online(struct rcu_data *rdp);
> > @@ -1983,6 +1984,17 @@ static noinline_for_stack bool rcu_gp_init(void)
> > if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD))
> > on_each_cpu(rcu_strict_gp_boundary, NULL, 0);
> > + /*
> > + * Immediately report QS for the GP kthread's CPU. The GP kthread
> > + * cannot be in an RCU read-side critical section while running
> > + * the FQS scan. This eliminates the need for a second FQS wait
> > + * when all CPUs are idle.
> > + */
> > + preempt_disable();
> > + rcu_qs();
> > + rcu_report_qs_rdp(this_cpu_ptr(&rcu_data));
> > + preempt_enable();
> > +
> > return true;
> > }
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I verified this patch on ppc64 systems and observed consistent performance
> improvements.
>
> The testing was conducted on Power LPARs using 20 cores (160 CPUs) with SMT
> enabled and disabled. All tests were performed on the latest upstream kernel
> (v6.19.0-rc3+), and the patch showed measurable improvements in both SMT
> configurations.
>
> SMT Mode | With Patch (s) | Without Patch (s) | Improvement
> (%)
> ————————————————————————————————————
> SMT ON. | 51.662 | 75.540 | 31.61% faster
> SMT OFF | 44.246 | 59.933 | 26.18% faster
>
> Please add below tag:
Tested-by: Samir M <samir@...ux.ibm.com>
>
Applied, thanks!
Regards,
Boqun
> Thanks,
> Samir
>
>
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