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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2026 22:41:00 +0800
From: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@...il.com>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@...il.com>
Cc: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@...am.me.uk>, Yury Norov <ynorov@...dia.com>,
	Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@...e.com>, Yury Norov <yury.norov@...il.com>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@...musvillemoes.dk>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@...aro.org>,
	Matt Turner <mattst88@...il.com>,
	Magnus Lindholm <linmag7@...il.com>,
	Vineet Gupta <vgupta@...nel.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@...ha.franken.de>,
	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@...ux.ibm.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@...ux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@...ux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@...ux.ibm.com>,
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	Patrik Jakobsson <patrik.r.jakobsson@...il.com>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@...ux.intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@...nel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@...e.de>,
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	Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
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	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@...filter.org>,
	Florian Westphal <fw@...len.de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] treewide, bits: use ffs_val() where it is
 open-coded

On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 10:23:02PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:42:56 +0800
> Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@...il.com> wrote:
> 
> ...
> > Since there are other gmail users on this thread (e.g., David, whom I
> > assume received it successfully given the reply), I am wondering if
> > anyone else using gmail experienced similar issues with this message?
> 
> Me 'David' ?
> I'm actually subscribed to the lists on a different email provider.
> I used to use gmail, but it bounces, spams and just plain discards
> far too many messages to reliably receive lkml and friends.
> I post from the gmail address to avoid leaking the other address to spammers.
> 
Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you were receiving on gmail as well.

I actually just missed another reply from Maciej (again, nothing in
spam). It appears gmail has decided to silently drop messages from him
for some reason.

I'm a bit surprised to hear gmail described as generally unsuitable. I
have used this account for Linux and several other open source projects
for the past three years without issues until now.

Also, a quick check shows:

$ grep "gmail.com" MAINTAINERS | wc -l
534

Given that over 500 maintainers and reviewers use gmail, it implies it
is widely relied upon. I even recall Linus mentioning issues with gmail
spam filters regarding PRs in the past t (though I am not sure of the
exact association between linux-foundation.org and gmail), suggesting
that even at that level, gmail is part of the workflow.

TBH, if these emails were simply going to spam, it wouldn't be an issue
as I check that folder regularly. The problem here is that Maciej's
emails aren't even in spam.

That said, if direct emails continue to vanish like this, I may indeed
have to start looking for an alternative. (sigh...)

Regards,
Kuan-Wei

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