Message-ID: <ec78bf021fa1f6243798945943541ba171e337e7.camel@kernel.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 08:34:33 -0500
From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@...il.com>, Christian Brauner
 <brauner@...nel.org>,  Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@...cle.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Luis de Bethencourt <luisbg@...nel.org>, Salah
 Triki <salah.triki@...il.com>, Nicolas Pitre <nico@...xnic.net>, Christoph
 Hellwig	 <hch@...radead.org>, Anders Larsen <al@...rsen.net>, Alexander
 Viro	 <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, David Sterba <dsterba@...e.com>, Chris
 Mason	 <clm@...com>, Gao Xiang <xiang@...nel.org>, Chao Yu
 <chao@...nel.org>, Yue Hu	 <zbestahu@...il.com>, Jeffle Xu
 <jefflexu@...ux.alibaba.com>, Sandeep Dhavale	 <dhavale@...gle.com>, Hongbo
 Li <lihongbo22@...wei.com>, Chunhai Guo	 <guochunhai@...o.com>, Jan Kara
 <jack@...e.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,  Andreas Dilger
 <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca>, Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@...nel.org>, OGAWA
 Hirofumi	 <hirofumi@...l.parknet.co.jp>, David Woodhouse
 <dwmw2@...radead.org>,  Richard Weinberger	 <richard@....at>, Dave Kleikamp
 <shaggy@...nel.org>, Ryusuke Konishi	 <konishi.ryusuke@...il.com>,
 Viacheslav Dubeyko <slava@...eyko.com>,  Konstantin Komarov
 <almaz.alexandrovich@...agon-software.com>, Mark Fasheh <mark@...heh.com>,
 Joel Becker	 <jlbec@...lplan.org>, Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@...ux.alibaba.com>,
 Mike Marshall	 <hubcap@...ibond.com>, Martin Brandenburg
 <martin@...ibond.com>, Miklos Szeredi	 <miklos@...redi.hu>, Phillip Lougher
 <phillip@...ashfs.org.uk>, Carlos Maiolino	 <cem@...nel.org>, Hugh Dickins
 <hughd@...gle.com>, Baolin Wang	 <baolin.wang@...ux.alibaba.com>, Andrew
 Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,  Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@...nel.org>,
 Sungjong Seo <sj1557.seo@...sung.com>, Yuezhang Mo	 <yuezhang.mo@...y.com>,
 Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@...cle.com>, Alexander Aring	
 <alex.aring@...il.com>, Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@...hat.com>, Jonathan
 Corbet <corbet@....net>, "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@...radead.org>,
 Eric Van Hensbergen	 <ericvh@...nel.org>, Latchesar Ionkov
 <lucho@...kov.net>, Dominique Martinet	 <asmadeus@...ewreck.org>, Christian
 Schoenebeck <linux_oss@...debyte.com>,  Xiubo Li <xiubli@...hat.com>, Ilya
 Dryomov <idryomov@...il.com>, Trond Myklebust <trondmy@...nel.org>,  Anna
 Schumaker	 <anna@...nel.org>, Steve French <sfrench@...ba.org>, Paulo
 Alcantara	 <pc@...guebit.org>, Ronnie Sahlberg <ronniesahlberg@...il.com>,
 Shyam Prasad N	 <sprasad@...rosoft.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@...pey.com>,
 Bharath SM	 <bharathsm@...rosoft.com>, Hans de Goede <hansg@...nel.org>, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org, linux-erofs@...ts.ozlabs.org, 
	linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net, 
	linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org, jfs-discussion@...ts.sourceforge.net, 
	linux-nilfs@...r.kernel.org, ntfs3@...ts.linux.dev,
 ocfs2-devel@...ts.linux.dev, 	devel@...ts.orangefs.org,
 linux-unionfs@...r.kernel.org, 	linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org,
 linux-mm@...ck.org, gfs2@...ts.linux.dev, 	linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
 v9fs@...ts.linux.dev, ceph-devel@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org, linux-cifs@...r.kernel.org, 
	samba-technical@...ts.samba.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/24] vfs: require filesystems to explicitly opt-in to
 lease support

On Fri, 2026-01-09 at 19:52 +0100, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 7:57 PM Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 2026-01-08 at 18:40 +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Thu 08-01-26 12:12:55, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > Yesterday, I sent patches to fix how directory delegation support is
> > > > handled on filesystems where the should be disabled [1]. That set is
> > > > appropriate for v6.19. For v7.0, I want to make lease support be more
> > > > opt-in, rather than opt-out:
> > > > 
> > > > For historical reasons, when ->setlease() file_operation is set to NULL,
> > > > the default is to use the kernel-internal lease implementation. This
> > > > means that if you want to disable them, you need to explicitly set the
> > > > ->setlease() file_operation to simple_nosetlease() or the equivalent.
> > > > 
> > > > This has caused a number of problems over the years as some filesystems
> > > > have inadvertantly allowed leases to be acquired simply by having left
> > > > it set to NULL. It would be better if filesystems had to opt-in to lease
> > > > support, particularly with the advent of directory delegations.
> > > > 
> > > > This series has sets the ->setlease() operation in a pile of existing
> > > > local filesystems to generic_setlease() and then changes
> > > > kernel_setlease() to return -EINVAL when the setlease() operation is not
> > > > set.
> > > > 
> > > > With this change, new filesystems will need to explicitly set the
> > > > ->setlease() operations in order to provide lease and delegation
> > > > support.
> > > > 
> > > > I mainly focused on filesystems that are NFS exportable, since NFS and
> > > > SMB are the main users of file leases, and they tend to end up exporting
> > > > the same filesystem types. Let me know if I've missed any.
> > > 
> > > So, what about kernfs and fuse? They seem to be exportable and don't have
> > > .setlease set...
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes, FUSE needs this too. I'll add a patch for that.
> > 
> > As far as kernfs goes: AIUI, that's basically what sysfs and resctrl
> > are built on. Do we really expect people to set leases there?
> > 
> > I guess it's technically a regression since you could set them on those
> > sorts of files earlier, but people don't usually export kernfs based
> > filesystems via NFS or SMB, and that seems like something that could be
> > used to make mischief.
> > 
> > AFAICT, kernfs_export_ops is mostly to support open_by_handle_at(). See
> > commit aa8188253474 ("kernfs: add exportfs operations").
> > 
> > One idea: we could add a wrapper around generic_setlease() for
> > filesystems like this that will do a WARN_ONCE() and then call
> > generic_setlease(). That would keep leases working on them but we might
> > get some reports that would tell us who's setting leases on these files
> > and why.
> 
> IMO, you are being too cautious, but whatever.
> 
> It is not accurate that kernfs filesystems are NFS exportable in general.
> Only cgroupfs has KERNFS_ROOT_SUPPORT_EXPORTOP.
> 
> If any application is using leases on cgroup files, it must be some
> very advanced runtime (i.e. systemd), so we should know about the
> regression sooner rather than later.
> 

I think so too. For now, I think I'll not bother with the WARN_ONCE().
Let's just leave kernfs out of the set until someone presents a real
use-case.

> There are also the recently added nsfs and pidfs export_operations.
> 
> I have a recollection about wanting to be explicit about not allowing
> those to be exportable to NFS (nsfs specifically), but I can't see where
> and if that restriction was done.
> 
> Christian? Do you remember?
> 

(cc'ing Chuck)

FWIW, you can currently export and mount /sys/fs/cgroup via NFS. The
directory doesn't show up when you try to get to it via NFSv4, but you
can mount it using v3 and READDIR works. The files are all empty when
you try to read them. I didn't try to do any writes.

Should we add a mechanism to prevent exporting these sorts of
filesystems?

Even better would be to make nfsd exporting explicitly opt-in. What if
we were to add a EXPORT_OP_NFSD flag that explicitly allows filesystems
to opt-in to NFS exporting, and check for that in __fh_verify()? We'd
have to add it to a bunch of existing filesystems, but that's fairly
simple to do with an LLM.
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>

Powered by blists - more mailing lists