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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 18:21:28 +0100
From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
 Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>,
 "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>, Steven Rostedt
 <rostedt@...dmis.org>, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
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 Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@...ux.dev>, SeongJae Park <sj@...nel.org>,
 Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
 Sweet Tea Dorminy <sweettea-kernel@...miny.me>,
 Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>,
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 Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@...wei.com>, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
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 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@...ux.alibaba.com>,
 Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@...ux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] mm: Fix OOM killer inaccuracy on large many-core
 systems

On 1/14/26 15:36, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> Use the precise, albeit slower, precise RSS counter sums for the OOM
> killer task selection and console dumps. The approximated value is
> too imprecise on large many-core systems.
> 
> The following rss tracking issues were noted by Sweet Tea Dorminy [1],
> which lead to picking wrong tasks as OOM kill target:
> 
>   Recently, several internal services had an RSS usage regression as part of a
>   kernel upgrade. Previously, they were on a pre-6.2 kernel and were able to
>   read RSS statistics in a backup watchdog process to monitor and decide if
>   they'd overrun their memory budget. Now, however, a representative service
>   with five threads, expected to use about a hundred MB of memory, on a 250-cpu
>   machine had memory usage tens of megabytes different from the expected amount
>   -- this constituted a significant percentage of inaccuracy, causing the
>   watchdog to act.
> 
>   This was a result of commit f1a7941243c1 ("mm: convert mm's rss stats
>   into percpu_counter") [1].  Previously, the memory error was bounded by
>   64*nr_threads pages, a very livable megabyte. Now, however, as a result of
>   scheduler decisions moving the threads around the CPUs, the memory error could
>   be as large as a gigabyte.
> 
>   This is a really tremendous inaccuracy for any few-threaded program on a
>   large machine and impedes monitoring significantly. These stat counters are
>   also used to make OOM killing decisions, so this additional inaccuracy could
>   make a big difference in OOM situations -- either resulting in the wrong
>   process being killed, or in less memory being returned from an OOM-kill than
>   expected.
> 
> Here is a (possibly incomplete) list of the prior approaches that were
> used or proposed, along with their downside:
> 
> 1) Per-thread rss tracking: large error on many-thread processes.
> 
> 2) Per-CPU counters: up to 12% slower for short-lived processes and 9%
>    increased system time in make test workloads [1]. Moreover, the
>    inaccuracy increases with O(n^2) with the number of CPUs.
> 
> 3) Per-NUMA-node counters: requires atomics on fast-path (overhead),
>    error is high with systems that have lots of NUMA nodes (32 times
>    the number of NUMA nodes).
> 
> commit 82241a83cd15 ("mm: fix the inaccurate memory statistics issue for
> users") introduced get_mm_counter_sum() for precise proc memory status
> queries for some proc files.
> 
> The simple fix proposed here is to do the precise per-cpu counters sum
> every time a counter value needs to be read. This applies to the OOM
> killer task selection, oom task console dumps (printk).
> 
> This change increases the latency introduced when the OOM killer
> executes in favor of doing a more precise OOM target task selection.
> Effectively, the OOM killer iterates on all tasks, for all relevant page
> types, for which the precise sum iterates on all possible CPUs.
> 
> As a reference, here is the execution time of the OOM killer
> before/after the change:
> 
> AMD EPYC 9654 96-Core (2 sockets)
> Within a KVM, configured with 256 logical cpus.
> 
>                                   |  before  |  after   |
> ----------------------------------|----------|----------|
> nr_processes=40                   |  0.3 ms  |   0.5 ms |
> nr_processes=10000                |  3.0 ms  |  80.0 ms |
> 
> Suggested-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
> Fixes: f1a7941243c1 ("mm: convert mm's rss stats into percpu_counter")
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250331223516.7810-2-sweettea-kernel@dorminy.me/ # [1]
> Signed-off-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>

Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>

> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
> Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
> Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>
> Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
> Cc: Dennis Zhou <dennis@...nel.org>
> Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
> Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>
> Cc: Martin Liu <liumartin@...gle.com>
> Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
> Cc: christian.koenig@....com
> Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@...ux.dev>
> Cc: SeongJae Park <sj@...nel.org>
> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
> Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>
> Cc: Sweet Tea Dorminy <sweettea-kernel@...miny.me>
> Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
> Cc: "Liam R . Howlett" <liam.howlett@...cle.com>
> Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org>
> Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>
> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>
> Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>
> Cc: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@...il.com>
> Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
> Cc: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@...wei.com>
> Cc: Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
> Cc: linux-mm@...ck.org
> Cc: stable@...r.kernel.org
> Cc: linux-trace-kernel@...r.kernel.org
> Cc: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>
> Cc: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@...ux.dev>
> Cc: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com>
> Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
> Cc: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@...ux.alibaba.com>
> Cc: Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@...ux.ibm.com>
> ---
> This patch replaces v1. It's aimed at mm-new.
> 
> Changes since v1:
> - Only change the oom killer RSS values from approximated to precise
>   sums. Do not change other RSS values users.
> ---
>  include/linux/mm.h |  7 +++++++
>  mm/oom_kill.c      | 22 +++++++++++-----------
>  2 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> index 6f959d8ca4b4..bfa1307264df 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> @@ -2901,6 +2901,13 @@ static inline unsigned long get_mm_rss(struct mm_struct *mm)
>  		get_mm_counter(mm, MM_SHMEMPAGES);
>  }
>  
> +static inline unsigned long get_mm_rss_sum(struct mm_struct *mm)
> +{
> +	return get_mm_counter_sum(mm, MM_FILEPAGES) +
> +		get_mm_counter_sum(mm, MM_ANONPAGES) +
> +		get_mm_counter_sum(mm, MM_SHMEMPAGES);
> +}
> +
>  static inline unsigned long get_mm_hiwater_rss(struct mm_struct *mm)
>  {
>  	return max(mm->hiwater_rss, get_mm_rss(mm));
> diff --git a/mm/oom_kill.c b/mm/oom_kill.c
> index 5eb11fbba704..214cb8cb939b 100644
> --- a/mm/oom_kill.c
> +++ b/mm/oom_kill.c
> @@ -228,7 +228,7 @@ long oom_badness(struct task_struct *p, unsigned long totalpages)
>  	 * The baseline for the badness score is the proportion of RAM that each
>  	 * task's rss, pagetable and swap space use.
>  	 */
> -	points = get_mm_rss(p->mm) + get_mm_counter(p->mm, MM_SWAPENTS) +
> +	points = get_mm_rss_sum(p->mm) + get_mm_counter_sum(p->mm, MM_SWAPENTS) +
>  		mm_pgtables_bytes(p->mm) / PAGE_SIZE;
>  	task_unlock(p);
>  
> @@ -402,10 +402,10 @@ static int dump_task(struct task_struct *p, void *arg)
>  
>  	pr_info("[%7d] %5d %5d %8lu %8lu %8lu %8lu %9lu %8ld %8lu         %5hd %s\n",
>  		task->pid, from_kuid(&init_user_ns, task_uid(task)),
> -		task->tgid, task->mm->total_vm, get_mm_rss(task->mm),
> -		get_mm_counter(task->mm, MM_ANONPAGES), get_mm_counter(task->mm, MM_FILEPAGES),
> -		get_mm_counter(task->mm, MM_SHMEMPAGES), mm_pgtables_bytes(task->mm),
> -		get_mm_counter(task->mm, MM_SWAPENTS),
> +		task->tgid, task->mm->total_vm, get_mm_rss_sum(task->mm),
> +		get_mm_counter_sum(task->mm, MM_ANONPAGES), get_mm_counter_sum(task->mm, MM_FILEPAGES),
> +		get_mm_counter_sum(task->mm, MM_SHMEMPAGES), mm_pgtables_bytes(task->mm),
> +		get_mm_counter_sum(task->mm, MM_SWAPENTS),
>  		task->signal->oom_score_adj, task->comm);
>  	task_unlock(task);
>  
> @@ -604,9 +604,9 @@ static bool oom_reap_task_mm(struct task_struct *tsk, struct mm_struct *mm)
>  
>  	pr_info("oom_reaper: reaped process %d (%s), now anon-rss:%lukB, file-rss:%lukB, shmem-rss:%lukB\n",
>  			task_pid_nr(tsk), tsk->comm,
> -			K(get_mm_counter(mm, MM_ANONPAGES)),
> -			K(get_mm_counter(mm, MM_FILEPAGES)),
> -			K(get_mm_counter(mm, MM_SHMEMPAGES)));
> +			K(get_mm_counter_sum(mm, MM_ANONPAGES)),
> +			K(get_mm_counter_sum(mm, MM_FILEPAGES)),
> +			K(get_mm_counter_sum(mm, MM_SHMEMPAGES)));
>  out_finish:
>  	trace_finish_task_reaping(tsk->pid);
>  out_unlock:
> @@ -960,9 +960,9 @@ static void __oom_kill_process(struct task_struct *victim, const char *message)
>  	mark_oom_victim(victim);
>  	pr_err("%s: Killed process %d (%s) total-vm:%lukB, anon-rss:%lukB, file-rss:%lukB, shmem-rss:%lukB, UID:%u pgtables:%lukB oom_score_adj:%hd\n",
>  		message, task_pid_nr(victim), victim->comm, K(mm->total_vm),
> -		K(get_mm_counter(mm, MM_ANONPAGES)),
> -		K(get_mm_counter(mm, MM_FILEPAGES)),
> -		K(get_mm_counter(mm, MM_SHMEMPAGES)),
> +		K(get_mm_counter_sum(mm, MM_ANONPAGES)),
> +		K(get_mm_counter_sum(mm, MM_FILEPAGES)),
> +		K(get_mm_counter_sum(mm, MM_SHMEMPAGES)),
>  		from_kuid(&init_user_ns, task_uid(victim)),
>  		mm_pgtables_bytes(mm) >> 10, victim->signal->oom_score_adj);
>  	task_unlock(victim);

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