linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 11/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_split_cross_boundary

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2026 08:49:58 +0000
From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@...el.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce
 kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs()

On Mon, 2026-01-19 at 08:35 +0000, Huang, Kai wrote:
> On Mon, 2026-01-19 at 09:28 +0800, Zhao, Yan Y wrote:
> > > I find the "cross_boundary" termininology extremely confusing.  I also dislike
> > > the concept itself, in the sense that it shoves a weird, specific concept into
> > > the guts of the TDP MMU.
> > > The other wart is that it's inefficient when punching a large hole.  E.g. say
> > > there's a 16TiB guest_memfd instance (no idea if that's even possible), and then
> > > userpace punches a 12TiB hole.  Walking all ~12TiB just to _maybe_ split the head
> > > and tail pages is asinine.
> > That's a reasonable concern. I actually thought about it.
> > My consideration was as follows:
> > Currently, we don't have such large areas. Usually, the conversion ranges are
> > less than 1GB. Though the initial conversion which converts all memory from
> > private to shared may be wide, there are usually no mappings at that stage. So,
> > the traversal should be very fast (since the traversal doesn't even need to go
> > down to the 2MB/1GB level).
> > 
> > If the caller of kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs() finds it needs to convert a
> > very large range at runtime, it can optimize by invoking the API twice:
> > once for range [start, ALIGN(start, 1GB)), and
> > once for range [ALIGN_DOWN(end, 1GB), end).
> > 
> > I can also implement this optimization within kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs()
> > by checking the range size if you think that would be better.
> 
> I am not sure why do we even need kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs(), if you
> want to do optimization.
> 
> I think I've raised this in v2, and asked why not just letting the caller
> to figure out the ranges to split for a given range (see at the end of
> [*]), because the "cross boundary" can only happen at the beginning and
> end of the given range, if possible.
> 
> [*]:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/35fd7d70475d5743a3c45bc5b8118403036e439b.camel@intel.com/

Hmm.. thinking again, if you have multiple places needing to do this, then
kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs() may serve as a helper to calculate the
ranges to split.