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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2026 23:38:01 -0800
From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
To: NeilBrown <neil@...wn.name>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/29] fs: require filesystems to explicitly opt-in to
 nfsd export support

On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 07:45:35AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> This sounds like you are recommending that we give in to bullying.

I find your suggestion that anything you disagree with is bullying
extremely offensive.  If you have valid reasons for naming something
after the user instead of explaining the semantics, please explain that.

If you think NFS actually explains the semantics pretty well, please
explain that too, especially in forms that can be put into
documentation, including for the user ABI.


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