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Message-ID: <584441e8-ffff-4cce-939a-43b297d645c4@linaro.org>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2026 11:05:09 +0000
From: James Clark <james.clark@...aro.org>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>
Cc: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
 Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
 Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
 Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
 Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
 linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
 Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf jevents: Handle deleted JSONS in out of source
 builds



On 26/01/2026 8:45 pm, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2026 at 09:51:30AM +0000, James Clark wrote:
>> On 1/20/26 6:54 PM, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 10:01:52AM -0800, Ian Rogers wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 7:39 AM James Clark <james.clark@...aro.org> wrote:
>>>>> The cp command here doesn't remove files that have been removed from the
>>>>> sourcetree. That means incremental builds can either succeed with stale
>>>>> events or will fail completely if a stale json file has a broken
>>>>> reference in it.
> 
>>>>> Fix it by using rsync instead of cp. legacy-cache.json has to be
>>>>> excluded as this is a generated file isn't present in the source tree.
> 
>>>>> This only happens when deleting a JSON file, which has only happened
>>>>> once since the linked commit. The fixes commit is marked as the origin
>>>>> of the problem in case any future changes that delete JSONs are back
>>>>> ported, rather than the first commit that deleted a JSON file.
> 
>>>>> Reported-by: Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
>>>>> Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-next/aW5XSAo88_LBPSYI@sirena.org.uk/
>>>>> Fixes: 4bb55de4ff03 ("perf jevents: Support copying the source json files to OUTPUT")
>>>>> Signed-off-by: James Clark <james.clark@...aro.org>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> This is a bit of a hack and I thought that making jevents.py handle
>>>>> multiple input folders would be a much better solution than this. Then
>>>>> we could have "gen-pmu-events" for only generated files and "pmu-events"
>>>>> for only in-tree input files. It would be very clear what's generated
>>>>> and what's not and all copying rules and special clean rules just
>>>>> disappear (and this isn't the first time these rules have caused build
>>>>> issues).
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, after a while of trying to modify the script I thought it
>>>>> was too invasive for now. The script does output per-file at the very
>>>>> bottom of the logic in process_one_file(), so adding files in another
>>>>> folder ends up re-emitting section headers when another chunk is output.
>>>>> Although other parts of the script do build things up in memory before
>>>>> outputting so it was possible to make those parts work with multiple
>>>>> folders transparently.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks James!
>>>> Acked-by: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
>>>> I see other rsync uses in:
>>>> tools/testing/selftests/sparc64/Makefile
>>>> tools/testing/selftests/bpf/Makefile
>>>> but they aren't the most compelling mainstream uses. I wonder whether
>>>> we can test for rsync's availability and if not fall back on cp?
>   
>> That will work if we completely wipe the destination directory every time.
>> But it would be an untested path, because in reality everyone is going to
>> have rsync. It might be better to re-implement rsync and then at least the
>> same thing runs everywhere.
>   
>>> It is not mentioned at all in Documentation, so probably its best not to
>>> add a requirement for it?
>   
>> I can hack together something that does the delete in a few lines of bash or
>> make then? I did consider that originally but I thought that's what rsync
>> does so I'll just use it.
> 
> Did this progress?
> 
> - Arnaldo

Yes I sent a v2 here: 
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-perf-users/20260121-james-perf-json-delete-fix-v2-1-2e10f895bfd7@linaro.org/

If it looks ok to you it should be good to apply.


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