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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 05:34:39 -0500
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <graf@...zon.com>
Cc: Johannes Thumshirn <Johannes.Thumshirn@....com>,
"virtualization@...ts.linux.dev" <virtualization@...ts.linux.dev>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>,
Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@...ux.alibaba.com>,
Eugenio Pérez <eperezma@...hat.com>,
"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] virtio: silence KCSAN warning in
virtqueue_get_buf_ctx_split
On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 11:30:20AM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
> On 28.01.26 10:13, Johannes Thumshirn wrote:
> > On 1/28/26 10:03 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > > On 28.01.26 09:47, Johannes Thumshirn wrote:
> > > > On 1/27/26 5:30 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > > > > This patches the split vring format, but does not touch the packed one.
> > > > > What happens if you run the same test with the packed format? You can do
> > > > > so by passing "packed=on" as argument to your -device parameter.
> > > > This opened up a whole new can of worms... :(
> > > That's what I expected :).
> > >
> > > How do other DMA based devices handle this? Is the real problem that
> > > virtio by default does not use the DMA API and so it confuses generic
> > > KCSAN logic that would otherwise track DMA regions as "can be modified
> > > by DMA at any time"?
> > >
> > > If that is the case, maybe what we really want is to force enable use of
> > > the DMA API when KCSAN is active. Does something like the (whitespace
> > > broken) patch below work?
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> > > index ddab68959671..b1dd790ce622 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> > > @@ -284,6 +284,13 @@ static bool vring_use_map_api(const struct
> > > virtio_device *vdev)
> > > if (xen_domain())
> > > return true;
> > >
> > > + /*
> > > + * KCSAN needs to track who can modify memory. DMA API gets
> > > + * us that, so always use it.
> > > + */
> > > + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KCSAN))
> > > + return true;
> > > +
> > > return false;
> > > }
> >
> > Unfortunately this doesn't get us any further (I'd love though, it looks
> > way cleaner!)
> >
> > I still see the KCSAN messages even on boot.
>
>
> Ah, looks like the important bit for KCSAN is not the mapping mechanism,
> it's the actual compiler annotation for the read. So these virtio ring reads
> should all be annotated as READ_ONCE() to make sure KCSAN knows the read
> itself is atomic.
>
> Alex
>
so then:
return vq->last_used_idx != virtio16_to_cpu(vq->vq.vdev,
READ_ONCE(vq->split.vring.used->idx));
?
>
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