lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <CANpmjNPL662LMLw9o-fqQCBkhD=oG-UTHSQb8XeXtXduhh1dQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2026 11:12:49 +0100
From: Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@...il.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, 
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>, 
	Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>, Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@....org>, llvm@...ts.linux.dev, 
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, 
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] arm64: Optimize __READ_ONCE() with CONFIG_LTO=y

On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 at 11:03, David Laight <david.laight.linux@...il.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 01:52:33 +0100
> Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> > Rework arm64 LTO __READ_ONCE() to improve code generation as follows:
> >
> > 1. Replace _Generic-based __unqual_scalar_typeof() with more complete
> >    __rwonce_typeof_unqual(). This strips qualifiers from all types, not
> >    just integer types, which is required to be able to assign (must be
> >    non-const) to __u.__val in the non-atomic case (required for #2).
> >
> > Once our minimum compiler versions are bumped, this just becomes
> > TYPEOF_UNQUAL() (or typeof_unqual() should we decide to adopt C23
> > naming).  Sadly the fallback version of __rwonce_typeof_unqual() cannot
> > be used as a general TYPEOF_UNQUAL() fallback (see code comments).
> >
> > One subtle point here is that non-integer types of __val could be const
> > or volatile within the union with the old __unqual_scalar_typeof(), if
> > the passed variable is const or volatile. This would then result in a
> > forced load from the stack if __u.__val is volatile; in the case of
> > const, it does look odd if the underlying storage changes, but the
> > compiler is told said member is "const" -- it smells like UB.
> >
> > 2. Eliminate the atomic flag and ternary conditional expression. Move
> >    the fallback volatile load into the default case of the switch,
> >    ensuring __u is unconditionally initialized across all paths.
> >    The statement expression now unconditionally returns __u.__val.
> >
> ...
> > Signed-off-by: Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
> > ---
> > v2:
> > * Add __rwonce_typeof_unqual() as fallback for old compilers.
> > ---
> >  arch/arm64/include/asm/rwonce.h | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++----
> >  1 file changed, 20 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/rwonce.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/rwonce.h
> > index fc0fb42b0b64..712de3238f9a 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/rwonce.h
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/rwonce.h
> > @@ -19,6 +19,23 @@
> >               "ldapr" #sfx "\t" #regs,                                \
> >       ARM64_HAS_LDAPR)
> >
> > +#ifdef USE_TYPEOF_UNQUAL
> > +#define __rwonce_typeof_unqual(x) TYPEOF_UNQUAL(x)
> > +#else
> > +/*
> > + * Fallback for older compilers to infer an unqualified type.
> > + *
> > + * Uses the fact that auto is supposed to drop qualifiers. Unlike
>
> Maybe:
>         In all versions of clang 'auto' correctly drops qualifiers.
> A reminder in here that this is clang only might also clarify things.

Will add.

> > + * typeof_unqual(), the type must be complete (defines an unevaluated local
> > + * variable); this must trivially hold because __READ_ONCE() returns a value.
>
> Not sure that is needed.

Trying to warn against someone copy-pasting this as a TYPEOF_UNQUAL
fallback implementation. typeof() and typeof_unqual() do happily take
incomplete struct declarations. E.g. this works:

struct foo;
...
struct foo *f;
typeof_unqual(*f) *x = f;

Whereas with the __rwonce_typeof_unqual() fallback this doesn't work.
I can try to make it clearer.

> > + *
> > + * Another caveat is that because of array-to-pointer decay, an array is
> > + * inferred as a pointer type; this is fine for __READ_ONCE usage, but is
> > + * unsuitable as a general fallback implementation for TYPEOF_UNQUAL.
>
> gcc < 11.0 stops it being used elsewhere.
> Something shorter?
>         The arrary-to-pointer decay doesn't matter here.

Ack.

Thanks!

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ